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Mr.Jay · 04-13-2013, 02:45 PM

^ so off topic I love it haha

Go Vancouver where you can't afford to live and there are kids who have just came to the country racing arou d without licence in hundred thousands dollar cars like no big deal. Where bmw are like civics and M cars are the type r equivalent

SnapOv3st3r · 04-13-2013, 04:35 PM

back on topic....Meth injection dyno numbers coming soon.

ptuning · 04-13-2013, 04:51 PM

Here's a preliminary tune of our PTUNING turbo system with our prototype 4-1 header in place. It's still being tuned on 93 octane pump gas, but this time we've added 50/50 water/methanol injection.

Things to note:

- This is just a preliminary tune. We're still working on fine tuning the midrange and chasing down an exhaust leak (likely caused by reusing a few old gaskets).

- WG is still recirculated.

- Rev Limiter increased to 7,800 rpms.

- Car was tuned at 11.5 psi with a compromise between boost, timing, and AFR to keep the engine happy. We're basically ignition timing limited at these power levels, even with the WMI. While we could run more boost and make some more power, we felt that this was a good stopping point for the current set-up on the stock compression engine.

- 93 pump gas with water methanol injection is NOT the same as E85. It's better than pump alone, but it's certainly not as good as E85 or C16/Q16, especially on this platform. Look for an E85 tune later on down the road.

- For those comparing results, keep in mind that our Dyno Dynamics dyno reads about 10-12 percent lower than a typical Dynojet, about 13-15 percent lower than a Dynapack (hub dyno), and roughly 2-3 percent lower than a Mustang dyno.

MooKz · 04-13-2013, 05:34 PM

Oh snap fellas and ladies.. I KNOW you have some vids to share!

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ecko04 · 04-13-2013, 05:49 PM

Pics of the header?

Immortality · 04-13-2013, 05:54 PM

I would love to see a Dyno with a boost in-between 6.5 and 9 that includes the new header, also with no water/meth injection.

SmsAlSuwaidi · 04-13-2013, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptuning

Here's a preliminary tune of our PTUNING turbo system with our prototype 4-1 header in place. It's still being tuned on 93 octane pump gas, but this time we've added 50/50 water/methanol injection.

Things to note:

- This is just a preliminary tune. We're still working on fine tuning the midrange and chasing down an exhaust leak (likely caused by reusing a few old gaskets).

- WG is still recirculated.

- Rev Limiter increased to 7,800 rpms.

- Car was tuned at 11.5 psi with a compromise between boost, timing, and AFR to keep the engine happy. We're basically ignition timing limited at these power levels, even with the WMI. While we could run more boost and make some more power, we felt that this was a good stopping point for the current set-up on the stock compression engine.

- 93 pump gas with water methanol injection is NOT the same as E85. It's better than pump alone, but it's certainly not as good as E85 or C16/Q16, especially on this platform. Look for an E85 tune later on down the road.

- For those comparing results, keep in mind that our Dyno Dynamics dyno reads about 10-12 percent lower than a typical Dynojet, about 13-15 percent lower than a Dynapack (hub dyno), and roughly 2-3 percent lower than a Mustang dyno.

Finnaaly !!!

a water/meth injection system may i ask is the car running a standalone? if not how did you get the water/meth ? does it work with ecutuek

this might be the solution for us 91 octane people because it's way more convenient than looking for e85 stations in CA

AZFA20 · 04-13-2013, 08:41 PM

That's what I am talking about!! Water/Meth is my go to everyday I get in my other cars. Love it!!!!! As mentioned its not as good as E85 but a hell of lot cheaper overall and super convenient.

Calum · 04-13-2013, 08:44 PM

*puts on flame suit

That torque curve looks worse then before. The peak is awesome and all, but with an extra 5.3 pounds of boost AND WMI I'm really surprised you lost in parts of the mid range. With you're philosophy on exhausts I highly doubt you used anything but a merge collector. What were you're primary ID's and length's? Was it equal length or not?

Or do you attribute that loss to the exhaust leaks and tuning?

dabocx · 04-13-2013, 09:03 PM

Hopefully when they finish up the tune things will clear up, still cool to see new stuff though

SnapOv3st3r · 04-13-2013, 10:21 PM

Work in Progress is looking good.

sw20kosh · 04-14-2013, 03:57 AM

When you get the issues sorted can we also get a boost plot? Thanks!

Personally I'd like to see a better torque curve but perhaps that will change when things are running better.

Calum · 04-14-2013, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dabocx

Hopefully when they finish up the tune things will clear up, still cool to see new stuff though

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnapOv3st3r

Work in Progress is looking good.

I absolutly agree guys. This kits awesome and the first torque curve looked stunning.

Sent from mission control

kayhettin · 04-15-2013, 12:40 PM

most definitely keeping an eye out for this.

04-13-2013, 02:45 PM	#239
Mr.Jay Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Drives: FRS :D Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 2,985 Thanks: 545 Thanked 699 Times in 438 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^ so off topic I love it haha Go Vancouver where you can't afford to live and there are kids who have just came to the country racing arou d without licence in hundred thousands dollar cars like no big deal. Where bmw are like civics and M cars are the type r equivalent __________________ Out of the FRS game

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ecko04 Seems Legit Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: Toyota Location: Here & There Posts: 855 Thanks: 187 Thanked 438 Times in 250 Posts Mentioned: 24 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Pics of the header? __________________ No build thread. I don't want to be reminded of how much money I spent. [insert profound quote here]

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kayhettin Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Firestorm FR-S Location: Virginia Posts: 74 Thanks: 89 Thanked 30 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	most definitely keeping an eye out for this. __________________ Kayhettin of Elysiam Entertainment 2013 Firestorm FR-S 6MT First 86 www.facebook.com/elysiamguild

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04-13-2013, 04:35 PM	#240
SnapOv3st3r Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 400whp Scion tC Location: TN Posts: 1,310 Thanks: 676 Thanked 323 Times in 213 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	back on topic....Meth injection dyno numbers coming soon.

04-13-2013, 04:51 PM	#241
ptuning Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: White FR-S Location: Manassas, Virginia Posts: 537 Thanks: 272 Thanked 1,003 Times in 305 Posts Mentioned: 146 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Here's a preliminary tune of our PTUNING turbo system with our prototype 4-1 header in place. It's still being tuned on 93 octane pump gas, but this time we've added 50/50 water/methanol injection. Things to note: - This is just a preliminary tune. We're still working on fine tuning the midrange and chasing down an exhaust leak (likely caused by reusing a few old gaskets). - WG is still recirculated. - Rev Limiter increased to 7,800 rpms. - Car was tuned at 11.5 psi with a compromise between boost, timing, and AFR to keep the engine happy. We're basically ignition timing limited at these power levels, even with the WMI. While we could run more boost and make some more power, we felt that this was a good stopping point for the current set-up on the stock compression engine. - 93 pump gas with water methanol injection is NOT the same as E85. It's better than pump alone, but it's certainly not as good as E85 or C16/Q16, especially on this platform. Look for an E85 tune later on down the road. - For those comparing results, keep in mind that our Dyno Dynamics dyno reads about 10-12 percent lower than a typical Dynojet, about 13-15 percent lower than a Dynapack (hub dyno), and roughly 2-3 percent lower than a Mustang dyno.

04-13-2013, 05:34 PM	#242
MooKz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Firestorm Red Location: New Jersey Posts: 459 Thanks: 145 Thanked 83 Times in 67 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Oh snap fellas and ladies.. I KNOW you have some vids to share! Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

04-13-2013, 05:54 PM	#244
Immortality Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: Future BRZ Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 17 Thanks: 13 Thanked 9 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I would love to see a Dyno with a boost in-between 6.5 and 9 that includes the new header, also with no water/meth injection.

04-13-2013, 08:44 PM	#247
Calum That Guy Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2013 asphalt FRS MT Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 4,865 Thanks: 5,058 Thanked 2,868 Times in 1,499 Posts Mentioned: 82 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	*puts on flame suit That torque curve looks worse then before. The peak is awesome and all, but with an extra 5.3 pounds of boost AND WMI I'm really surprised you lost in parts of the mid range. With you're philosophy on exhausts I highly doubt you used anything but a merge collector. What were you're primary ID's and length's? Was it equal length or not? Or do you attribute that loss to the exhaust leaks and tuning?

04-13-2013, 09:03 PM	#248
dabocx Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Scion FRS Location: United States Posts: 1,267 Thanks: 564 Thanked 261 Times in 191 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hopefully when they finish up the tune things will clear up, still cool to see new stuff though

04-13-2013, 10:21 PM	#249
SnapOv3st3r Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 400whp Scion tC Location: TN Posts: 1,310 Thanks: 676 Thanked 323 Times in 213 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Work in Progress is looking good.

04-14-2013, 03:57 AM	#250
sw20kosh Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 Black FR-S Location: SF Posts: 3,030 Thanks: 881 Thanked 2,014 Times in 990 Posts Mentioned: 153 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	When you get the issues sorted can we also get a boost plot? Thanks! Personally I'd like to see a better torque curve but perhaps that will change when things are running better.

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