Scion Drops the ball...

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by EDub

But what if you like the look of the toyota front end and want the above?

The OP's point is the Japanese get the best of everything, be it BRZ or 86 and we get the shaft as per usual. I'm somewhat disappointed, but the only thing I really want in the FRS is the heated seats and the LED/HID headlights. Up here in Vancouver it gets freaking cold. Heated seats are amazing.

I would love to see the dual climate/nicer back seat/push start as an option for the FRS.

Firearms, freedoms, and boobs.

Sorry but the thread title says...yeah. /thread

[NorCalRider]

@OP Damn settle down and stop yelling and crying like a child. This is not a luxury car, it's a cheap fun to drive entry level sports car with emphasis on handling and light weight. All this complaining tonight is crazy. Your acting like it should be fully loaded for 22k. Subaru has already said they will have 2 models (premium and limited), Scion will most likely have 1 model that you can add options too like they have done in the past. Why don't you just settle down and wait to see what happens in January when we get more info. /rant

[armythug]

Originally Posted by EDub

I want it, because its available..The 86 is just a huge **** tease. Look at how sick this is...well you can't have that..or that... or that

Na man. The STI BRZ with the wide body is the biggest tease. why show us a nicer car and then sell us a toned down version sorry for going off topic

[nrclptcnsmniak]

Hmmm... I thought the point of the GT86 was a low spec model available to the youth with very limited options at a LOW PRICE which leaves the doors open to modify and personalize the vehicle the way the buyer wanted. I dont see any other way of getting an inexpensive car unless the parts its made up of are in fact inexpensive. I remember the toyota engineer stating that he hated the fact that they were coming out with a low spec model for the youth to modify because he dislikes modified cars. But its not up to the engineers its up to toyota. And like somebody previously stated Toyota felt this step would at the end benefit them more.

You wanted cheap you have cheap. You wanted cheap that way you have more monies to modify. You have that as well. Dont like it? Buy another car. A few of you are taking pride in the scion model and are standing by it. Kudos. I will be going the Subaru direction.

[S2kphile]

Originally Posted by nrclptcnsmniak

Hmmm... I thought the point of the GT86 was a low spec model available to the youth with very limited options at a LOW PRICE which leaves the doors open to modify and personalize the vehicle the way the buyer wanted. I dont see any other way of getting an inexpensive car unless the parts its made up of are in fact inexpensive. I remember the toyota engineer stating that he hated the fact that they were coming out with a low spec model for the youth to modify because he dislikes modified cars. But its not up to the engineers its up to toyota. And like somebody previously stated Toyota felt this step would at the end benefit them more.

You wanted cheap you have cheap. You wanted cheap that way you had more monies to modify. You have that as well. Dont like it? Buy another car. A few of you are taking pride in the scion model and are standing by it. Kudos. I will be going the Subaru direction.

I agree. Here is hoping that the USDM BRZ will be similar to the JDM version. Amenities and details. I want my car to be looking dapper since it'll be my DD.

[Matador]

Originally Posted by exotisus

Lets see


** NOT TURBO, like really? then ill buy a Fiat 500 Abarth edition!
** N/A, really? i should buy a Civic Si that has VTEC


ALL THAT HYPE FOR NOTHING. I guess I am done being on this site.

Good riddance.

Originally Posted by goldenfri

Buy the BRZ then.

Originally Posted by convotutor

Well,
Hyundai seem to option their cars really well for a very reasonable price.

There's no other way to say this this, Scion is a low end brand and they are trying to lose as little money (bc I read somewhere that toyota/subaru are losing money on this apparently) as possible by cheapening the interior and exterior as much as they can.

Sure you get the driving dynamics and all that this is supposed to be, but I'm sure a lot of people will be disappointed and move to the BRZ bc of the cheap interior. I think some will pay a bit more to have a daily driver with good driving dynamics while being surrounded in a nice environment.

There's the differentiation, and low price everyone is asking for. Pretty sure it will also help out a bit in the weight arena. Why do you feel that everyone needs heated seats, dual zone climate control etc? If it's a big deal, buy the goddamned BRZ. As is the Scion seems to cater more to the people who registered here anytime before this year for a back to basics driving machine.

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

Yes, DIAF

A display car with no options does not equal a display car with options.

+1

Originally Posted by alexdee

No one is every happy, you guys wanted cheap. So here you go. Its a drivers car anyways, you want dual climate control, nav, push button start for what exactly?

Friggin exactly. And with that I refuse to read any further into this thread. Fucking bunch of cry babies, damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[RZNT4R]

I'm a bit late, I think OP is Doing it Wrong™

- LED strips are not awesome, Copying audi doesn't make the car suddenly better
- Push button start is not a selling point, it's a worthless bullet point.
- Manual single zone AC is better. Is dual zone really worth it in a tiny 2+2? Is turning a knob that hard?
- Fog lamps are useless to 98% of the people who have them, people with them don't know how to use them, making them a danger to other motorists.
- You won't die if you don't have heated seats, I live in cold cold canada, and I've never felt like I needed heated seats. Just don't get into your car in your underwear when it's freezing outside and you'll be fine.

The FR-S is MUCH CLOSER to the design ideal behind this trio of cars than than the other two, and because of this, it'd be the one I'd get. Now if only it had wind down windows.

[Hawx]

There is some pretty pathetic shit happening in this thread, I for one am looking forward to the base model.. why? I want the car for it's performance, looks are a factor but not as important. I know that because of the 'lack' of accessories in the base model, I can do what I want to it, and make it my own. I look forward to getting the 86 and doing some of my own modifying.... Heated seats and push button start my ass!

[bambbrose]

AMEN to those standing up for the Scion.

It looks like the most "true to the roots" version yet.

Let's hope the price comes in where we want!

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by convotutor

Well,
Hyundai seem to option their cars really well for a very reasonable price.

There's no other way to say this this, Scion is a low end brand and they are trying to lose as little money (bc I read somewhere that toyota/subaru are losing money on this apparently) as possible by cheapening the interior and exterior as much as they can.

Sure you get the driving dynamics and all that this is supposed to be, but I'm sure a lot of people will be disappointed and move to the BRZ bc of the cheap interior. I think some will pay a bit more to have a daily driver with good driving dynamics while being surrounded in a nice environment.

[sazu]

i see this : being used a lot here in this forum.
What does mean?

[SUB-FT86]

It means WORD. Agreeing with someone.

[mkivalex]

There are wayyy to many sandy vaginas in this thread, first you want cheap, now your mad they took some of the expensive features away to make it cheap! There is no winning with most of you.

If you want the features buy the BRZ if you want the CAR barebones buy the FRS, I wouldnt be surprised to see some of these things as add ons to the car. Which is great in my opinion, you pay for what you want. If you just want a barebones car you get it, If you want LED's, fogs, ect you pay the premium.

The only thing I am disapointed in is the climate controls, they were pretty neat looking, but I still dont really care, I want this car to drive.

[PAImportTuner]

Originally Posted by xantonin

@ OP. You're retarded.

There's a reason Subaru is making their own model.

This is like looking at the power tool toys in the kids section and crying that the plastic hammer doesn't work.

You want the big boy toys then get out of the kids section.

Agreed and do you really want to pay 24-25k for a Scion??? Lol