Scion Drops the ball... - Page 4 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

KevinDuMa · 12-01-2011, 02:06 AM

Motortrend posted live pics and interior shots of the black one...pretty gross

http://wot.motortrend.com/officially...io-141213.html

RRnold · 12-01-2011, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinDuMa

Motortrend posted live pics and interior shots of the black one...pretty gross

http://wot.motortrend.com/officially...io-141213.html

You don't like the carbon fiber "look"?

KevinDuMa · 12-01-2011, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RRnold

You don't like the carbon fiber "look"?

Lol that I don't really mind...but the blue seats...pass

ayau · 12-01-2011, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by goldenfri

Exhaust tips are because of US regulations and heated seats suck.

Whats the reasoning behind this? I could see why they make uniform amber turn signals but not something comsmetic like a muffler tip.

Midnight Run · 12-01-2011, 02:42 AM

I actually like everything I see so far. Cheap RWD Sports Car. No complaints here about what Scion is going to offer.

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Originally Posted by dcaff

So i waited and waited since 2009 like all of us. Then in past few days i joined the site and was so excited to see such beautiful cars the Toyota 86 and the Subie BRZ. Low on power but high on looks i figured i can live with that. By the time the warranty is up there will be aftermarket parts galore and i can make it my supercar.

* GAVE US SHIT FRONT LIGHTS
* NO FOG LIGHTS
* RADIO FROM A 1990 PICKUP TRUCK
* SILVER MPH GAUGE
* DESTROYED AN HVAC SYSTEM THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL AND FOOLED ME INTO THINKING IT WAS A GT-R FOR A MOMENT.
* NO PUSH BUTTON START!!!!!!
* DID THEY JUST START THE REAR SEAT BACKS AND THEN GO TAKE LUNCH?

ANY THOUGHTS?

Shitty front lights? well, you do know that in Japan they drive on the left-side right? Therefore we do not get their HID setup yet. But I am sure Toyota N.A will make these available in the following model years. But If you absolutely want HID right away, I can utilize my resources in Japan to get you a set JDM spec headlights as soon as the car is available. Would you like to pay a premium for them??

ayau · 12-01-2011, 02:48 AM

Toyota could give us the high spec model, but you'd get people complaining about the price.

You can't satisfy everyone so Toyota believes offering the low trim to US customers will yield the highest return. You can't forget that Toyota is a business and thy need to keep heir shareholders happy.

Midnight Run · 12-01-2011, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ayau

Toyota could give us the high spec model, but you'd get people complaining about the price.

You can't satisfy everyone so Toyota believes offering the low trim to US customers will yield the highest return. You can't forget that Toyota is a business and thy need to keep heir shareholders happy.

+1

Kostamojen · 12-01-2011, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RRnold

You don't like the carbon fiber "look"?

Oooh, no fake silver aluminum on the base model! Even better!

As for you people complaining about the lack of content on the base model Scion...

It's a BASE MODEL for a reason people! Get with the program.

Dark · 12-01-2011, 03:32 AM

I think it's probably base "tuner" model. You probably can go up-scale. I just want smaller wheels as I will swap stock ones for aftermarket ones.

Kostamojen · 12-01-2011, 03:53 AM

They are saying that those awful 17's are stock on all models...

I was hoping for 16's on the base model too

JohnnyR · 12-01-2011, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Midnight Run

Shitty front lights? well, you do know that in Japan they drive on the left-side right? Therefore we do not get their HID setup yet.

What? The reason is cost, and I'm sure it'll be an option. The BRZ will have them after all. Just like all the other JP cars with HID that comes over here day and date with them.

I'm just surprised they didn't go all out: A/C an option, Power Windows an option, and Radio optional, to go for the maximum "track car effect" and actually shave off a few more pounds for who this car is supposed to be designed for anyways.

Kostamojen · 12-01-2011, 04:04 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if the radio really is optional. Scion's like to do that anyway.

As for power windows, the new units tend to be just as light as crank windows. So designing an entirely separate system for a crank window would be pointless.

ayau · 12-01-2011, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyR

What? The reason is cost, and I'm sure it'll be an option. The BRZ will have them after all. Just like all the other JP cars with HID that comes over here day and date with them.

I'm just surprised they didn't go all out: A/C an option, Power Windows an option, and Radio optional, to go for the maximum "track car effect" and actually shave off a few more pounds for who this car is supposed to be designed for anyways.

That just won't work for most people. There will always be compromises and Toyota believes this will yield the highest sales.

ayau · 12-01-2011, 04:10 AM

I think many of you think that Toyota created this car for people like us, but in reality, the majority of buyers will probably be your average scion buyer. There's really no point in getting mad over these small things. Just be thankful hat Toyota even brought this car to the US when average US consumer just cares about HP.

12-01-2011, 03:32 AM	#51
Dark Elite Padawan Join Date: Mar 2010 Drives: '15 WRX, 15 GLA250, and 2 feet Location: Shoreline, WA Posts: 3,498 Thanks: 197 Thanked 250 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s)	I think it's probably base "tuner" model. You probably can go up-scale. I just want smaller wheels as I will swap stock ones for aftermarket ones. __________________ Dark

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KevinDuMa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Drives: 2004 Honda S2000 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 610 Thanks: 46 Thanked 20 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s)	Motortrend posted live pics and interior shots of the black one...pretty gross http://wot.motortrend.com/officially...io-141213.html

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ayau Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Some rust bucket Location: Polar ice cap Posts: 3,058 Thanks: 312 Thanked 1,046 Times in 556 Posts Mentioned: 37 Post(s)	Toyota could give us the high spec model, but you'd get people complaining about the price. You can't satisfy everyone so Toyota believes offering the low trim to US customers will yield the highest return. You can't forget that Toyota is a business and thy need to keep heir shareholders happy.

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Kostamojen Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: 1993 Impreza w/ WRX Swap + FWD! Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 2,071 Thanks: 217 Thanked 952 Times in 500 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s)	I wouldn't be surprised if the radio really is optional. Scion's like to do that anyway. As for power windows, the new units tend to be just as light as crank windows. So designing an entirely separate system for a crank window would be pointless.

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ayau Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Some rust bucket Location: Polar ice cap Posts: 3,058 Thanks: 312 Thanked 1,046 Times in 556 Posts Mentioned: 37 Post(s)	I think many of you think that Toyota created this car for people like us, but in reality, the majority of buyers will probably be your average scion buyer. There's really no point in getting mad over these small things. Just be thankful hat Toyota even brought this car to the US when average US consumer just cares about HP.

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