PPE Engineering Headers Installation and DIY - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Gary in NJ · 04-10-2013, 04:37 PM

Sorry, but the graph is all but useless without YOUR baseline. If you do further modifications you can compare the results with this graph, but this static data tells us nothing about the results of your efforts.

JDKane527 · 04-10-2013, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary in NJ

Sorry, but the graph is all but useless without YOUR baseline. If you do further modifications you can compare the results with this graph, but this static data tells us nothing about the results of your efforts.

While true, it helps in comparing the torque characteristics. I never got a stock baseline, and don't plan to, so this will serve as best approximation.

fenton · 04-10-2013, 09:03 PM

The overlay is off. If you look at 5252RPM you see the stock crosses there but your head runs cross at 5000.

I know you did it in paint and kudos for that but if you shift everything to line up on 5252rpm the torque dip is more or less the same. Shorter yes but not as dramatic as it seems for the chop.

JDKane527 · 04-10-2013, 09:23 PM

Now that you mention it, I also noticed the number marks on the overlaid graph don't line up with the vertical lines, screw it. It is what it is. I'm not going to spend all day putting 2 graphs together to quantitatively see how much I really gained because the stock graph isn't the proper baseline.

What to take away from it is I'm not losing power, and the torque dip occurs sooner in power band with the setup.

fenton · 04-10-2013, 11:23 PM

Dip is alot shorter that's what counts.

Xdragonxb0i · 04-11-2013, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charged86

This is really nice. I'm waiting for a company to make a nice catted header to keep dBl down

I am about to install nameless catted front pipe, and p&L catted headers, ill try post a video of the sound,

Really like the finish on PPE header.

charged86 · 04-11-2013, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xdragonxb0i

I am about to install nameless catted front pipe, and p&L catted headers, ill try post a video of the sound,

Really like the finish on PPE header.

Oh heck yes!

fenton · 04-11-2013, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xdragonxb0i

I am about to install nameless catted front pipe, and p&L catted headers, ill try post a video of the sound,

Really like the finish on PPE header.

Yes please! start a new thread though. Is in the front pipe down pipe combo or just front pipe?

Xdragonxb0i · 04-11-2013, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenton

Yes please! start a new thread though. Is in the front pipe down pipe combo or just front pipe?

Its still on thups t truck though, So wait a few weeks. Its front and over pipe combo with cat and helm bolts resonator. My downpipe and muffler is a custom magna flow set up made by accelerated performance.

To op sorry for derailing, I'm in for more pictures of it installed

JDKane527 · 05-29-2013, 06:02 AM

[ame]http://youtu.be/B1qMJmzH3G4[/ame]

Finally got around to downloading the footage off my phone.
Filmed off Samsung GS3

tripjammer · 05-29-2013, 05:02 PM

We need some in car video bro!

StormTrooper · 12-30-2013, 12:17 PM

Haven't heard anything more about PPE headers... Would want a replacement o2 sensor.

Ever get it custom tuned?

JDKane527 · 12-31-2013, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StormTrooper

Haven't heard anything more about PPE headers... Would want a replacement o2 sensor.

Ever get it custom tuned?

Haven't gotten a custom tune yet. The FA20club tune has been alright, but I noticed that in the tuning file, the secondary O2 sensor afr correction value was not set to 0. I was having CEL for the secondary O2 sensor reading lean, which is to be expected since it is not in the direct exhaust gas path, and I'm sure that made it want to add more fuel to run rich. When the update that allows the end user to tweak the maps was released, I corrected this to be 0 and it's been running better since.

I plan to visit Delicious Tuning after I get the catback exhaust installed to have the complete system tuned.

whataboutbob · 05-14-2014, 12:30 AM

Here's a couple of short videos of my car with the PPE headers. I also have the Innovate SC, Invidia N1 and Invidia ft pipe w a high flow cat.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt34BPz92OQ"]2013 Scion FR-S PPE Engineering EL header cold start - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZguhoni23Q"]2013 Scion FR-S PPE Engineering EL header rev #1 - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNUTZ_Lfk"]2013 Scion FR-S PPE Engineering EL header rev #2 - YouTube[/ame]

04-10-2013, 09:23 PM	#32
JDKane527 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: Asphalt Scion FR-S Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 499 Thanks: 274 Thanked 215 Times in 136 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s)	Now that you mention it, I also noticed the number marks on the overlaid graph don't line up with the vertical lines, screw it. It is what it is. I'm not going to spend all day putting 2 graphs together to quantitatively see how much I really gained because the stock graph isn't the proper baseline. What to take away from it is I'm not losing power, and the torque dip occurs sooner in power band with the setup. __________________ Asphalt Build

05-29-2013, 06:02 AM	#38
JDKane527 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: Asphalt Scion FR-S Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 499 Thanks: 274 Thanked 215 Times in 136 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s)	[ame]http://youtu.be/B1qMJmzH3G4[/ame] Finally got around to downloading the footage off my phone. Filmed off Samsung GS3 __________________ Asphalt Build

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Headers?	BuBlake	Engine, Exhaust, Transmission	30	04-22-2014 10:46 AM
Anyone put UEL headers on this car yet?	MarkMash	Engine, Exhaust, Transmission	118	03-29-2013 12:30 PM
Headers	tdoggy57	Engine, Exhaust, Transmission	10	01-13-2013 05:09 AM
j2 engineering	rosco186	Engine, Exhaust, Transmission	3	12-02-2012 11:57 PM
Headers UEL vs EL	Decameron	Engine, Exhaust, Transmission	38	08-31-2012 12:00 PM

04-10-2013, 04:37 PM	#29
Gary in NJ Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: WR Blue BRZ, 240Z Location: Amongst the twisty roads Posts: 587 Thanks: 21 Thanked 412 Times in 206 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s)	Sorry, but the graph is all but useless without YOUR baseline. If you do further modifications you can compare the results with this graph, but this static data tells us nothing about the results of your efforts.

04-10-2013, 09:03 PM	#31
fenton Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Calgary Posts: 2,086 Thanks: 526 Thanked 1,614 Times in 726 Posts Mentioned: 120 Post(s)	The overlay is off. If you look at 5252RPM you see the stock crosses there but your head runs cross at 5000. I know you did it in paint and kudos for that but if you shift everything to line up on 5252rpm the torque dip is more or less the same. Shorter yes but not as dramatic as it seems for the chop.

04-10-2013, 11:23 PM	#33
fenton Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Calgary Posts: 2,086 Thanks: 526 Thanked 1,614 Times in 726 Posts Mentioned: 120 Post(s)	Dip is alot shorter that's what counts.

User Name		Remember Me?
Password