Scion FR-S OFFICIALLY REVEALED (Details, Specs + Live and Press Photos) - Page 15 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

chessplaya2010 · 12-01-2011, 01:36 AM

tc (MT) = 18k and it does "160" hp more like 140...... now when this car came around.. the 25k price tag always followed it... so id say expect it... since it looks a lot better than a Tc and it should be way faster... so add up 18k + looks + performance = 23-25k <---- expect this.... and let us fucking whine about the interior....it CHEAP!!! tc has a cheap interior ( i own one) and it cost me 18k and remember that Scion has that crap they call "true price" where you can't bargain w/ the dealership, you pay tag price no matter what.... i will probably buy the TRD version if one is made... they'll probably do something similar to those tc RC versions...

Kostamojen · 12-01-2011, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CXTKRS1

What this guy said, if it was priced at 20K no one would buy a tC ever again.

tC is for the womenz anyway

mr e poo · 12-01-2011, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SHINCHU86

i love the fact you called it spartan. i was thinking the same thing on like page 3 and almost said "its great! THIS IS SPARTAAAAAN!!!!!" lmao

When I think of Spartan I think of Elise. The S2000 was extremely comfortable for what little it had and oozed quality (even with the 1990 radio that you never used). Things I love to be able to say about the FR-S.

SHINCHU86 · 12-01-2011, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by NorCalRider

WRX engine might bolt up, but I highly doubt it will fit. None of the IC pipes would work. Would be much easier to just add a FI kit to the motor. 12.5 to 1 compression is perfectly doable on a low boost turbo setup with DI. You could always just put a thicker headgasket in to lower compression if you have to or lower comp pistons and rods if you plan on going with more boost. I have installed plenty of FI kits on high compression Honda ITR motors before and they were fine with low boost. DI is just that much better with the ability to controll fuel to a finer point. I love boost like any other boost junky, but I love the high rpm NA motors to. I believe this car will see plenty of both types in the aftermarket once the car becomes available to the public and I cant wait.

ok its been confirmed by several sources they designed the engine to match other subaru engine mount locations. the WRX engine WILL bolt in. plumbing? you would pass up on a WRX engine because of some simple plumbing issues? you can bet you runcle floyyd there will be companies (like HASSport) to make WRX bolt in kits with piping and anything else you need.
as for low boost... why go to the trouble of boosting at all just to be scared of going over 9 lbs? i was boosting 16+ on a stock bottom end SR20 with injectors and power FC. THAT is how turbos should be done. pistons are key.

i dont doubt eventually some company(s) will sell a turbo kit for the FR-S. question will be, is it worth it? ~35hp for like $4k? im sure a WRX engine wouldnt cost much more than that.
/rant

mr e poo · 12-01-2011, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Kostamojen

I'd tell you this...

Bumper skins cost $150-200, and another $150 to paint them. Change it yourself.

I thought the front lights were different. Will this actually work? If so you just cheered me up! :happy0180:

CyberFormula · 12-01-2011, 01:39 AM

chill guys...if you don't like the car...

the NEW WRX is around the corner.

CXTKRS1 · 12-01-2011, 01:40 AM

So I'm guessing this engine has no VVT system right?

rifleshooter · 12-01-2011, 01:41 AM

I really like the car. I am well - WELL, mind you - past the intended age of motoring ownership for this little car, but because it reminds me of the countless Japanese RWD coupes I owned during and after college, I will want one.

Unless they beat my ass with a $27k price tag. Then it ain't gonna happen. This is, all day, a $20-22k car. Any more would be CRIMINAL.

skinsfn36 · 12-01-2011, 01:41 AM

@Shinchu..The amount you boost has absolutely nothing with how much power you gain...

I was boosting 8psi in my Si on wastegate pressure and was still sitting at 400whp, about a 120% gain over stock.

No need to turn this into a turbo argument though!

I hope Scion offers some of the amenities as factory options!

bryan · 12-01-2011, 01:41 AM

Not sure if it's the angle but it seems like the cool edge to edge review mirror is also gone.
Not a complaint, just an observation. I love the car and Jack Hollis as well.

Xdragonxb0i · 12-01-2011, 01:41 AM

New Radio system, HID lighting, maybe fog lights? Remote start/push to start and call it a day.

exmayol · 12-01-2011, 01:42 AM

Woah this interior makes BRZ look like a luxury one...

SHINCHU86 · 12-01-2011, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JFC

Hmm do i see harness mounts/holes in the back seat??

yes, yes i do. FOR MY KIDDOS!

quik1987 · 12-01-2011, 01:43 AM

Why are people suprised they gave us low spec? I thought it was given being a Scion.

12-01-2011, 01:39 AM	#202
CyberFormula Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Drives: gti, nsx, integra type r,porsche911 Location: garage Posts: 536 Thanks: 1 Thanked 17 Times in 15 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	chill guys...if you don't like the car... the NEW WRX is around the corner. __________________

12-01-2011, 01:41 AM	#206
bryan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Lots of Toyotas Location: SF, CA Posts: 103 Thanks: 8 Thanked 21 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Not sure if it's the angle but it seems like the cool edge to edge review mirror is also gone. Not a complaint, just an observation. I love the car and Jack Hollis as well. Last edited by bryan; 12-01-2011 at 01:55 AM.

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12-01-2011, 01:36 AM	#197
chessplaya2010 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Scion Tc Location: USA Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	tc (MT) = 18k and it does "160" hp more like 140...... now when this car came around.. the 25k price tag always followed it... so id say expect it... since it looks a lot better than a Tc and it should be way faster... so add up 18k + looks + performance = 23-25k <---- expect this.... and let us fucking whine about the interior....it CHEAP!!! tc has a cheap interior ( i own one) and it cost me 18k and remember that Scion has that crap they call "true price" where you can't bargain w/ the dealership, you pay tag price no matter what.... i will probably buy the TRD version if one is made... they'll probably do something similar to those tc RC versions...

12-01-2011, 01:40 AM	#203
CXTKRS1 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2009 Scion xD Location: United States Posts: 87 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So I'm guessing this engine has no VVT system right?

12-01-2011, 01:41 AM	#204
rifleshooter Old, bold, rear-whl-drvr Join Date: Feb 2011 Drives: 2008 Toyota FJ Cruiser Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I really like the car. I am well - WELL, mind you - past the intended age of motoring ownership for this little car, but because it reminds me of the countless Japanese RWD coupes I owned during and after college, I will want one. Unless they beat my ass with a $27k price tag. Then it ain't gonna happen. This is, all day, a $20-22k car. Any more would be CRIMINAL.

12-01-2011, 01:41 AM	#205
skinsfn36 Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Drives: 2006 Honda Civic Si Location: Richmond,VA Posts: 70 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	@Shinchu..The amount you boost has absolutely nothing with how much power you gain... I was boosting 8psi in my Si on wastegate pressure and was still sitting at 400whp, about a 120% gain over stock. No need to turn this into a turbo argument though! I hope Scion offers some of the amenities as factory options!

12-01-2011, 01:41 AM	#207
Xdragonxb0i Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: ex500r Location: AR Posts: 859 Thanks: 13 Thanked 105 Times in 77 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	New Radio system, HID lighting, maybe fog lights? Remote start/push to start and call it a day.

12-01-2011, 01:42 AM	#208
exmayol Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Acura RSX Location: PDX Posts: 87 Thanks: 31 Thanked 20 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Woah this interior makes BRZ look like a luxury one...

12-01-2011, 01:43 AM	#210
quik1987 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Drives: Bugatti Veyron Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 1,338 Thanks: 141 Thanked 569 Times in 256 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Why are people suprised they gave us low spec? I thought it was given being a Scion.

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