Time for battle: BRZ vs. 86 Poll (w/ comparison photos)

[spoolin]

For me it's 86 frs whatever all the way I like everything about it and I like everything about it 10xs more then the brz but that's just my opinion. And idc if it's a scion I actually like what scion stands for, that it is geared towards a younger group but then again I'm probably one of the youngest people that will be buying this car the second it hits the lots

[Mari0]

Originally Posted by Godzilla35

do we know if the 86 is exactly how the FR-S is going to look? maybe there will be some differences that will put the FR-S on top of the BRZ...

I like the FR-S overall... but I was one of the hopefuls that thought the BRZ Sti concept tail lights would make it =[ ... now I'm not so sure about the car any more. Just can't get over the rear end looking so silly.

From the looks of this: 1) amber reflector 2) more red in the tail lights 3) smaller exhaust tips (those 3 make it almost the same as the BRZ US VERSION)

None of that is confirmed obviously

Originally Posted by WhiteGDB

Looks like an FR-S in CA for the unveil. It's clearly an FR-S/GT86

Spotted on LA freeway:

Originally Posted by RRnold

PS - @OP: the interior pics are reversed - subaru left, toyota right - where as the others are the other way around.

[sneaky]

86, but I dont think i'll have a choice anyway
drag the slide to compare http://news.drive.com.au/86vsBRZ?rand=1322547636503

[Lordharding]

A hard decision
Lots going in favour of the 86
Nice trim
Nice from end
5year warranty
Price advantage ?

BRZ
Raw
The potential of more outrageous body kits like the STi concept
The petrol heads favourite
Decisions decisions

Well I've made mine as chairman of the uk biggest Subaru show they would hunt me down and hang me from. The nearest lampost with a exhaust inserted where the sun doesn't shine

BRZ for me

Bring it on

[Matador]

Originally Posted by Lordharding

A hard decision
Lots going in favour of the 86
Nice trim
Nice from end
5year warranty
Price advantage ?

BRZ
Raw
The potential of more outrageous body kits like the STi concept
The petrol heads favourite
Decisions decisions

Well I've made mine as chairman of the uk biggest Subaru show they would hunt me down and hang me from. The nearest lampost with a exhaust inserted where the sun doesn't shine

BRZ for me

Bring it on

Why would the BRZ have potential for more outrageous body kits exactly? And who or what made it the petrol heads favourite? the badge?

[Calais]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Still debating. I like the looks I'd FRS... But I'm Subie > Toyo

I'll final decide tomorrow

haha im exactly this but with the brands swapped

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

Why would the BRZ have potential for more outrageous body kits exactly? And who or what made it the petrol heads favourite? the badge?

i think he's going on the two companies currrent "brand image," which if you think about it basically amounts for nothing when concerning these two cars they are the pretty much to the contrary to each of the brand images, the first non white good's car toyota's brung out for years and the first RWD car Subaru's brung out for years.

Anywho i think it'll eventually be the mouthgaurd on the Subaru that'll make me go Toyota(well that and the Scoobie version might not make it down under)

[Lordharding]

Toyota in the UK since the disappearance of great cars like the MR2 ,celica and supra have unfortunely become middle aged car buyers favourites the 86 will get those customers back
Subaru in Uk has become the petrol heads favourite for the last 14/15 years since the Impreza came out and took over as their choice
This new direction for Subaru owners will be interesting to see how the hardcore AWD subaru take to a sports coupe which has never been seen since the coupe (sorry cant remember the name as advancing years catch up on me) in the mid 80s

[SUB-FT86]

It's funny how some of you guys say the rear end and interior is different. I can't see any differences but up front. I like the 86 better and I realized that this car will look better with 18''s wheels instead of 17''s.

[Levi]

lowered and with wheel spacers.

[Noble713]

86 has:
More aggressive front bumper
Better Tail Lights
Better Rear End w/o spoiler
iPod dock

BRZ has:
Better Headlights and Fog Lights
Plasma Blue paint
In-dash Navi (easier to replace with a Carputer than in 86)

The Plasma Blue is what is really doing it for me right now, so I'm leaning towards a BRZ. I anticipate much mixing and matching (like installing the top-of-the-line 86's digital LED gauges, for example).

[Infernal]

I prefer the lights on the brz but the GT-86 is a nicer car overall
so, Hachiroku for me

[Mari0]

Originally Posted by Noble713

86 has:
More aggressive front bumper
Better Tail Lights
Better Rear End w/o spoiler
iPod dock

BRZ has:
Better Headlights and Fog Lights
Plasma Blue paint
In-dash Navi (easier to replace with a Carputer than in 86)

The Plasma Blue is what is really doing it for me right now, so I'm leaning towards a BRZ. I anticipate much mixing and matching (like installing the top-of-the-line 86's digital LED gauges, for example).

You do realize that the tail lights are the same, right? The spoiler is optional, so your second point has as much validity as the former. BRZ will most likely have the iPod dock option as well. I don't see why they wouldn't.

The in-dash navi is optional for both cars (depending on trim level)

I think you are reading too much into those specific pics of those specific cars. The debate is the cars in general, not a showdown between the 2 cars from the show.

Main differences: front bumpers, headlights/fogs/leds, side vents, interior color/materials, and the one that apparently has the largest influence on a lot of people (due to brand prejudice and other factors) is the badge. Everything else is essentially the same (as far as we know)

[gt86vx]

brz has less rev limiter then the 86.

[WhippleDip]

The gauges look awful on the BRZ compared to the 86. Overall I think the 86 Looks better, and the front clip is much nicer without that awful black plastic insert. I can see from a logistics standpoint why they made two separate cars, but I for one hate badge engineered cars, just make one. I will most likely end up with an FR-S, but I see no reason it needs to be a Scion :\