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Old 04-02-2013, 02:36 PM   #43
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best way is to call a traffic ticket attorney and have them fight it for you. yelp is useful for finding some.
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Old 04-02-2013, 03:26 PM   #44
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If I were you, I would probably flee the country.
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Old 04-02-2013, 03:33 PM   #45
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Reason: Fail to stop/yield at intersection

Story: headed home from work at about midnight. Was three minutes away from home, just got off the freeway. Did a california stop at a three way intersection. Got pulled over got the ticket.

Question: on the ticket, it says "MAKE: TOYOTA. MODEL:SCIONFRS". Last I checked there is no such car as a Toyota Scionfrs. Does this make the information on the ticket incorrect, therefore invalid?

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how old r u? 16? legal advice for what?! just go to court say sorry, or simply pay the freaking ticket. you'll probably not even lose points for this dumb infraction.
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Old 04-02-2013, 03:50 PM   #46
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Did the same thing when is had my dc2.. Paid the ticket went to traffic school so I won't get on my record then weeks later got a letter saying I didn't pay for the traffic school and the check didn't go.. Went on record but now its gone due to I have my own insurance.. Now I stop for 2 seconds.. Learned my lesson.. Not worth the ticket.. Them pesky Porks be hiding in every bush
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$42 fine....you have 5 more violations before suspension...next time. just stop. that little bit of time to stop could prevent an accident.
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Old 04-02-2013, 04:14 PM   #48
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You want legal advice, you got it! There, lol
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Do not admit to anything, fight the ticket. Hopefully prevail.
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:04 PM   #50
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He has your driver's license number and insurance, so either way it is logged. For something like "Fail to stop/yield at intersection" I believe (could be totally wrong) is to be considered the same as running a red light. However, you are in Washington so the law may be way different than here in California. If the situation was that you received a speeding ticket, technically that is an unconstitutional law and you can therefore fight that and win.
A few other really, totally true bits of legal advice:

-The constitutional objection cited above only works if you used the super-secret, legal eagle words of power when the officer pulled you over: "I demand to know why you are hindering my means of transportation in interstate commerce, in contravention of the Bill of Rights, Magna Carta, Code of Hammurabi and Robert's Rules of Order."

-If the flag in the courtroom has a yellow fringe, then it is an admiralty court. Assuming you were not pulled over in US Territorial Waters, the judge must dismiss the case for lack of jurisdiction.

-Go to the notary and declare your car the sovereign state of Eightysixia, of which you are the head diplomat. Claim sovereign immunity.

-File a Writ of Habeus Derpus. I'm not exactly sure what this means, but it works.

Let us know how it goes. The judge may rule against you, but that just means he is part of the conspiracy.
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:23 PM   #51
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A few other really, totally true bits of legal advice:

-The constitutional objection cited above only works if you used the super-secret, legal eagle words of power when the officer pulled you over: "I demand to know why you are hindering my means of transportation in interstate commerce, in contravention of the Bill of Rights, Magna Carta, Code of Hammurabi and Robert's Rules of Order."

-If the flag in the courtroom has a yellow fringe, then it is an admiralty court. Assuming you were not pulled over in US Territorial Waters, the judge must dismiss the case for lack of jurisdiction.

-Go to the notary and declare your car the sovereign state of Eightysixia, of which you are the head diplomat. Claim sovereign immunity.

-File a Writ of Habeus Derpus. I'm not exactly sure what this means, but it works.

Let us know how it goes. The judge may rule against you, but that just means he is part of the conspiracy.
I sense your sarcasm and lack of knowledge. It is OK, however, as long as you know how to read and do proper research you might be able to save yourself. And maybe once you get out of high school your mind may open up to new and better opportunities!

I have a long time friend, he is an engineer living in California, who has challenged TWO speeding tickets and due to its unconstitutionality his tickets were waived. No need to pay and nothing was on his record. It really comes down to whether or not you principally believe it is worth spending time on defending yourself.

Good luck!
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Sarcasm? If you said that this happened to your friend once, I might have been skeptical. But twice? That is indisputable.

Do you realize how big this is? Every year millions, perhaps billions, of dollars in speeding tickets are issued. We need to put together class action suits against every single state. Anyone who has been issued one of these unconstitutional speeding tickets will could be a member of the class!

Here's what we'll do: You explain why speeding tickets are unconstitutional. I'm guessing its the Interstate Commerce Clause or the Privileges and Immunities Clause, but you're the expert. We'll probably also need to throw in a few citations.

I'm going to go out and drive really, really fast on the highway until I get pulled over. That way I can be the lead plaintiff in our suit against Pennsylvania.

So, I'll go speeding, and you get Shepardizing. Via Con Dios!

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As I said previously, good luck!
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Who needs luck? I'm pretty sure I can get a speeding ticket.

Tell you what, just point me towards the correct part of the Constitution and give me a few cites. You don't even have to Bluebook them. I'll run with this thing.

When I get my millions, I'll give you a cut.

We are so lucky that no law professors or big law firms have figured this out! What are the chances? I mean, those guys are pretty smart, and they deal with this kind of stuff all day, every day. I can't believe no one has picked up on this yet!
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:31 PM   #55
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Best you go to a lawyer if you're looking for legal advice. I think most law firms still offer free consultation (first visit).
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:40 PM   #56
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ib, you definitely need some luck, ha. If only you personally knew constitutional lawyers...or better yet read a little. Sad. Continue to remain ignorant though. Good luck!

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