Irrational Exuberance ??

[Spaceywilly]

There haven't been too many English reviews so far... I don't speak Japanese but in all the videos the driver has a huge smile, that says all I need to know.

Originally Posted by Autocar

Despite this, at its best, the driving experience is a match for the likes of a Porsche Cayman, and accolades don’t come much higher than that. That it can’t reach those heights across as broad a range of conditions as the German-built car shouldn’t detract from its overall success, because the fact that it can even get close is a minor miracle.

Originally Posted by speedhunters

Despite its 197 HP the 86 doesn't excite for its straight-line performance it's out through the corners that it comes alive. It delivers the kind of fun that you can't have in more powerful machinery. I know it sounds strange to say something like this but while you scare yourself silly in cars with tons of power you can concentrate on ringing the absolute maximum out of the 86 paying special attention to how the car behaves to your inputs and feeling for the feedback that comes in through the controls.

Originally Posted by autoexpress

Developed to be a reasonably priced sports coupe with serious ‘drifting’ and racing capabilities, we decide to switch off the VSC and traction control to see what happens. After dabbing the firm disc brakes to tuck the nose into a tight left-hander while holding 5,000rpm in 2nd, the initial hint of understeer is replaced by a welcome dose of oversteer that's easily controlled with opposite lock.


Toyota discussed at length its (and Subaru’s) decision to build a lightweight sports car that avoided AWD, turbos and high grip tyres. The end result is a stunning first step, that’s for sure. This car is a blast to drive and will without doubt inject some much-needed adrenalin to a lacklustre line-up.

Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carrevi...#ixzz1f3iKhe00

That sounds pretty good to me.

[Kostamojen]

Originally Posted by torquemada

which car would you choose?

Not an Alfa.

[Levi]

For me there is only one reviewer I want to hear: Chris Harris. He really know about cars. He praised the the Cayman, the 911 GT3, the 458 Italia, the LF-A, the M3, the 1 Series M and if the GT86/BRZ is a good car, he'll also praise this one. He is very objective and is not biased to any brand. If something is not very good, he'll say it.

[madfast]

Originally Posted by Levi

For me there is only one reviewer I want to hear: Chris Harris. He really know about cars. He praised the the Cayman, the 911 GT3, the 458 Italia, the LF-A, the M3, the 1 Series M and if the GT86/BRZ is a good car, he'll also praise this one. He is very objective and is not biased to any brand. If something is not very good, he'll say it.

dude is a porsche fan. people say he is biased because of that. i personally enjoy his reviews because he is knowledgeable...

[Aki]

Originally Posted by ahausheer

Forgive me but:

This car was designed to be one of the best handling road cars going right now. Why have none of the reviews come out and said it is among the best? They say it's great, or, a knockout, but no one says, it handles like the Cayman or it's better than a Miata or Rx-8 or S2000 etc etc. Perhaps the test drives were to short but a few laps should be all a professional car journalist needs. Best handling car in its class?, most likely, one of the best handling (non-exotic) cars on the road, not so sure.

Because these are preproduction cars.

These premiere events are "first drive" type of articles. It looks bad for a journo/publication to slam or give a definitive verdict on a car when it's not driven in production trim.

I love how the Porsche Cayman (esp Cayman R) feels/drives, so this is a really encouraging sign.

[pastuch]

Originally Posted by Buggy51

If it handles like a Cayman... well... ... what beats a Cayman? o_O;

Hell I think you can buy at least 2.5 FRS/BRZ/GT86's for a Cayman...

Yes and no... A used Cayman with less than 40000 miles is only $35k in Canada and cheaper in the US.

[Ryephile]

Originally Posted by ahausheer

This car was designed to be one of the best handling road cars going right now.

Where did you read that? It's not in any of the press releases! Both Toyota and Subaru are claiming it's an exciting and interactive sports car, but they've never claimed "best handling" anything anywhere.

Your comment about "B.S. Prius tire" only shows how dramatically you've misinterpreted the whole point of the car; to be an involving car at low limits....like the Miata. If the car feels like a Cayman, it'll be due to the interaction between chassis, steering, and driver, not from lap times or typical statistics.

Originally Posted by Levi

Chris Harris: He really nutswings Porsche.

Fixed it for you. Chris Harris is the most biased, most emotional [in a bad way] addition to Evo in recent memory.