Trolling

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by 2forme

I don't actually see them post much on a day to day basis, so it's hard to gauge what kind of people they are.

If you want to find me, Guff or Manny, we're usually in Random Thread (Off-Topic Section).

Actually a lot of old crews are in off-topic thread... I wonder why? Oh yeah, I remember cuz FT stands for Forgotten Topic. LMAO

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by 2forme

I personally think the term "troll" is abused here. It seems, to me, that anyone that questions the status quo, or puts up any type of counterpoint against another persons opinion, is considered a "troll" and verbally bashed to some degree by the people sharing that opinion.

Definitely this. There's a lot of crying wolf and whining for mommy on this forum as soon as someone disagrees or presents a different point of view. The guy disagreeing with you is not a troll...the guy you insulted thanking your post insulting him...that's trolling.

[2forme]

Originally Posted by njccmd2002

2forme u funny and this forum loves ya.

Lol not everyone wants to hug me hahaha I'm a troll, remember?!

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Definitely this. There's a lot of crying wolf and whining for mommy on this forum as soon as someone disagrees or presents a different point of view. The guy disagreeing with you is not a troll...the guy you insulted thanking your post insulting him...that's trolling.

So if I thank the guy insulting me by calling me a troll, wouldn't I make his statement true? Chicken or the egg....

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

If you want to find me, Guff or Manny, we're usually in Random Thread (Off-Topic Section).

Actually a lot of old crews are in off-topic thread... I wonder why? Oh yeah, I remember cuz FT stands for Forgotten Topic. LMAO

I'm always afraid of going in there. A.D.D. and off topic random threads don't mix well at work hahaha. Maybe I'll stop in.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by 2forme

I'm always afraid of going in there. A.D.D. and off topic random threads don't mix well at work hahaha. Maybe I'll stop in.

I'm just saying, if you need 3/5 mods posting... you know where to look

[n2oinferno]

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

How many hands does it take to clap?
...snip...
The fact that there was commotion wasnt 100% my fault, atleast thats how I feel, it takes two hands to clap.

Nope.
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1tsCOkCoC8"]No answer?! - YouTube[/ame]

[2forme]

I just confirmed that I can, indeed, clap with one hand. I will now start a 5 paragraph post demeaning Gem for claiming that 2 hands are necessary....

[Huehuecoyotl]

That thing youre doing with one hand isnt called clapping...

[Freeman]

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

That thing youre doing with one hand isnt called clapping...

Pure gold right there. 1000 internets to you

Via my Note 2

[Calum]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Definitely this. There's a lot of crying wolf and whining for mommy on this forum as soon as someone disagrees or presents a different point of view. The guy disagreeing with you is not a troll...the guy you insulted thanking your post insulting him...that's trolling.

Yeah, guilty of that one.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by Calum

Ok @Huehuecoyotl, I'll chime in. You might want to get a cup of tea though........

QFT X1000000 And of course... I clap

Calum you said so much things EXACTLY as I wanted to say them its scary. Gem, take a gooooood look at that post.


@Huehuecoyotl, I've said a lot of the stuff in that post before to you. My biggest problem has been the belittling and random jabs at other kits. I believe you are an asset to the community with all the knowledge you have. I just wish that crap stays out of it (You have been doing a good job lately). Also, I hope you have read my posts and have not felt insulted by them. If at any point I have insulted you I'm really sorry and truly apologize. Yes, I have been really mad at you, but I always always try to keep my post respectful and civil. I have seen lately that some people come and try to defend you and make it seem like I am killing you when I have just respectfully asked a question. I hope that does not change your view on my posts, I have tried 1000% to post with respect and not make it personal with you.

You can be a fan of your choices (and who isn't?? We all love what we buy that is why we spend money in it!!). The ONLY thing I ask is to refrain from making derogatory remarks towards other kits. Again, you can ask about something that doesn't seem right to you, you can question anything that in your eyes seem out of the ordinary, that is perfectly fine.

To give a quick example saying "oh but my kit does not use questionable silicone hoses that will probably fail" or " the turbo kits are not holding 9-10 psi at redline". Stuff like this are the ones that are seen as trolling. Why? because they are not true, and coming from a guy we know is very knowledgeable and intelligent, it is baffling. These type of remarks snowball into a huge turd because educated people feel their intelligence is insulted.

I think I know you well enough to know you are not insulted by this post and you take constructive criticism very good. I'm a friend of everyone here and don't want to make shit hit the fan. We can all agree to disagree respectfully. I thank you for modifying some aspects from your previous posting styles and hope we can all keep it civil.


Thanks to everyone for being an adult and sharing their opinions with all due respect.

[Huehuecoyotl]

I'm glad you brought that up, I had said I wanted to address that

What I wrote in post #53 of my "got car back" thread was
"but in the most of the kits I am seeing on the market most dont put out 9-10psi up top, or down below."

thats an unedited cut and paste

What I should have wrote, with clarification was:
"but in the most of the kits I am seeing on the market do not offer output 9-10psi up top,outta the box vanilla like with no extra mods or purchases needed"


What I meant is most kits arent coming out of the box with 9-10psi as the available start me off boost level, eg, Vortech''s kit they gave me made me 8.5psi, but is really at sealevel a 9 psi kit, outta the box, ok? This was a guy happy with his boost level, not out to injure the image of another kit, but stating a fact that was worded less than optimally on my end, my fault granted.

well folks didnt waste a minute to jump down my throat like i killed the pope

The facts are:
The AVO18/49 turbocharger comes with a 5-7 psi actuator
The P&L kit was advertised as 8psi
The full Blown kit listed 7.5psi
I think we all know innovate isnt pushing 9 psi outta the box

My point was that Vortech IS, not what other kits CAN do, but rather that the markets basic kit offering from Vortech seemed like it offered good air output.
I mis-spoke, mistyped, and was mis understood. Even today , somehow folks have added connotation to what i acctually wrote, you 'recalled my quote as'
"the turbo kits are not holding 9-10 psi at redline" per your post above, and really, THATS not what I meant, no reference to their capacity at redline was part of my point, but just goes to show how I am at gunpoint, and you all are out to crucify me for any little slip.

I also never said "Silicone hoses will fail" This was INFERRED
I can go dig it up, but I wrote that I dont want silicone hoses on my kit. And that hasnt changed, but so whats wrong if I post that? It doesnt mean you wont be happy with silicone,, just means I wont.

Some guys dig girls with boob jobs, some guys dont. That simple. I no likey the silicone. If u can find a post where I said they would fail, I will apologize. But I stand by what I said, I prefer a kit with metal piping, not silicone, not plastic. I never said silicone would fail. IF I WROTE THAT THAT WAS WRONG! yet the reader read what they want, and somehow I could care less that the thread regarding trolling has become a vent at gem thread, again

but then again, its the same people posting in this thread that are the ones that engaged in commotion, so no nothing new to see here.

This thread succeeded- them like flies, all Forum Trolls self identified, were all drawn out like flies to shit. Just look at who all, has posted above me.
(Sure I'm a troll at times, but in no way am I alone, JUST THE COMMUNITY SCAPEGOAT.)

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

I'm glad you brought that up, I had said I wanted to address that

What I wrote in post #53 of my "got car back" thread was
"but in the most of the kits I am seeing on the market most dont put out 9-10psi up top, or down below."

thats an unedited cut and paste

What I should have wrote, with clarification was:
"but in the most of the kits I am seeing on the market do not offer output 9-10psi up top,outta the box vanilla like with no extra mods or purchases needed"


What I meant is most kits arent coming out of the box with 9-10psi as the available start me off boost level, eg, Vortech''s kit they gave me made me 8.5psi, but is really at sealevel a 9 psi kit, outta the box, ok? This was a guy happy with his boost level, not out to injure the image of another kit, but stating a fact that was worded less than optimally on my end, my fault granted.

well folks didnt waste a minute to jump down my throat like i killed the pope

The facts are:
The AVO18/49 turbocharger comes with a 5-7 psi actuator
The P&L kit was advertised as 8psi
The full Blown kit listed 7.5psi
I think we all know innovate isnt pushing 9 psi outta the box

My point was that Vortech IS, not what other kits CAN do, but rather that the markets basic kit offering from Vortech seemed like it offered good air output.
I mis-spoke, mistyped, and was mis understood. Even today , somehow folks have added connotation to what i acctually wrote, you 'recalled my quote as'
"the turbo kits are not holding 9-10 psi at redline" per your post above, and really, THATS not what I meant, no reference to their capacity at redline was part of my point, but just goes to show how I am at gunpoint, and you all are out to crucify me for any little slip.

I also never said "Silicone hoses will fail" This was INFERRED
I can go dig it up, but I wrote that I dont want silicone hoses on my kit. And that hasnt changed, but so whats wrong if I post that? It doesnt mean you wont be happy with silicone,, just means I wont.

Some guys dig girls with boob jobs, some guys dont. That simple. I no likey the silicone. If u can find a post where I said they would fail, I will apologize. But I stand by what I said, I prefer a kit with metal piping, not silicone, not plastic. I never said silicone would fail. IF I WROTE THAT THAT WAS WRONG! yet the reader read what they want, and somehow I could care less that the thread regarding trolling has become a vent at gem thread, again

but then again, its the same people posting in this thread that are the ones that engaged in commotion, so no nothing new to see here.

This thread succeeded- them like flies, all Forum Trolls self identified, were all drawn out like flies to shit. Just look at who all, has posted above me.
(Sure I'm a troll at times, but in no way am I alone, JUST THE COMMUNITY SCAPEGOAT.)

I am not out there to crucify you... I am not here today to crucify you. I just provided an example. Yes, it was misunderstood, sorry for that. All of the matter could have been resoled if this exact post was written the time this issue surfaced, not today. This is the first time you explain what you meant and we rehashed that post for like two days.. Next time, explain it like you just did, but not a month later, but that same day in the same thread.

[2forme]

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

but then again, its the same people posting in this thread that are the ones that engaged in commotion, so no nothing new to see here.

This thread succeeded- them like flies, all Forum Trolls self identified, were all drawn out like flies to shit. Just look at who all, has posted above me.
(Sure I'm a troll at times, but in no way am I alone, JUST THE COMMUNITY SCAPEGOAT.)

SMH...

Well guys, we tried

[2forme]

I think we should order these for our club. Sizes?