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mact · 03-22-2013, 10:15 PM

Is this the same kit?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNbLAJjh_CE"]PTUNING FRS Exhaust/Turbo sound clip. - YouTube[/ame]

kanundrum · 03-22-2013, 10:21 PM

Yeap

Brianjoy77 · 03-24-2013, 09:05 PM

I'm amazed. Rear mount turbo looks incredible. I can't wait to see the airbox

Huehuecoyotl · 03-24-2013, 09:33 PM

Finally a turbo kit I would actually buy!

diss7 · 03-24-2013, 09:40 PM

I don't have a lot of knowledge about a turbo system with a rear located turbo. But, straight away I assume that having that much intercooler piping to fill is going to affect on/off throttle response and lag, compared to a kit like the Greddy or JDL kit. Is this true?

I like that the weight of the kit is kept nice and low. Is heat going to be an issue with the location? (Could also ceramic coat I guess)

I completely agree that the exhaust design is going to be great for WOT/dyno, but would like to know more about the expectations of a kit like this on a daily driver.

Brianjoy77 · 03-24-2013, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diss7

I don't have a lot of knowledge about a turbo system with a rear located turbo.

Yeah...

diss7 · 03-24-2013, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianjoy77

Yeah...

Hence why I'm asking questions about it, ass hat.

Tansey86 · 03-24-2013, 11:56 PM

Companies, when designing a turbo kit, either are able to provide very short IC piping, or very short exhaust piping. Each fabricator weighs the pros and cons of each route for each individual car. I have yet to see any true data on which way to go is better, but im sure both play a significant role.

More often than not I see people push for short IC piping though. Relieving backpressure after the turbo doesn't seem to be a problem with 3" piping, given we don't need huge turbos because these cars weigh very little.

WolfsFang · 03-25-2013, 12:50 AM

God please let this be close to 5k, I love the piping and everything about it.

WolfsFang · 03-25-2013, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diss7

Hence why I'm asking questions about it, ass hat.

It is not a rear mounted turbo, it just sits near the ground, response all depends on turbo/tubing/thickness of piping/tune/etc... A rear mounted turbo will sit near the muffler of a car.

diss7 · 03-25-2013, 01:44 AM

Yeh fair call. I was thinking rear, as in behind the motor. Lets call it mid mounted.

kask2_6.0 · 03-25-2013, 07:15 AM

I may have missed it but are you running an EL or UEL header with this setup? Placement of the turbo almost looks like it could utilize almost any header (that has a flange in the stock location) with just the use of a different overpipe. That would be cool.

sw20kosh · 03-25-2013, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kask2_6.0

I may have missed it but are you running an EL or UEL header with this setup? Placement of the turbo almost looks like it could utilize almost any header (that has a flange in the stock location) with just the use of a different overpipe. That would be cool.

It is using stock. You can use any header designed to hook up to the stock overpipe.

sw20kosh · 03-25-2013, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diss7

I don't have a lot of knowledge about a turbo system with a rear located turbo. But, straight away I assume that having that much intercooler piping to fill is going to affect on/off throttle response and lag, compared to a kit like the Greddy or JDL kit. Is this true?

I like that the weight of the kit is kept nice and low. Is heat going to be an issue with the location? (Could also ceramic coat I guess)

I completely agree that the exhaust design is going to be great for WOT/dyno, but would like to know more about the expectations of a kit like this on a daily driver.

1. The extra piping will not be noticed in terms of throttle response. Turbo size has a far greater effect on response. Do you realize how much air these little things pump out? If you have experienced a turbo motor with no intercooler piping (placing your hand over the output of the compressor while reving the engine) you would be able to imagine just how fast it can pressurize some piping (milliseconds).

2. Why would you worry about heat? It puts the hot turbo away from engine vitals and down under the chassis. Where would you worry about heat?

3. Judging from 3 data points, the fantastic torque curve, the insane boost curve, and 3rd party anecdotal evidence from a forum member (orbitz) I'd wager daily driveability is the least of your concerns...

03-22-2013, 10:15 PM	#85
mact Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 13 GTI Location: WI Posts: 416 Thanks: 119 Thanked 204 Times in 97 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Is this the same kit? [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNbLAJjh_CE"]PTUNING FRS Exhaust/Turbo sound clip. - YouTube[/ame] __________________

03-22-2013, 10:21 PM	#86
kanundrum Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2013 Whiteout FR-S Location: Laurel, MD Posts: 5,364 Thanks: 2,704 Thanked 3,016 Times in 1,711 Posts Mentioned: 106 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Yeap __________________ Ive spent most of my life racing... The rest I just wasted

03-25-2013, 12:50 AM	#93
WolfsFang Scrape Master Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Goal: Oldest FRS State Side Location: North NJ Posts: 1,161 Thanks: 238 Thanked 412 Times in 238 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	God please let this be close to 5k, I love the piping and everything about it. __________________ You do realize comparing the BRZ to the FR-S is like comparing which hand you love masterbating too right?

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Brianjoy77 Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Silver 6AT Location: MA Posts: 28 Thanks: 33 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm amazed. Rear mount turbo looks incredible. I can't wait to see the airbox

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diss7 Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: AE86, 2x GT86, TE27 Location: Christchurch NZ Posts: 1,478 Thanks: 826 Thanked 1,181 Times in 522 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't have a lot of knowledge about a turbo system with a rear located turbo. But, straight away I assume that having that much intercooler piping to fill is going to affect on/off throttle response and lag, compared to a kit like the Greddy or JDL kit. Is this true? I like that the weight of the kit is kept nice and low. Is heat going to be an issue with the location? (Could also ceramic coat I guess) I completely agree that the exhaust design is going to be great for WOT/dyno, but would like to know more about the expectations of a kit like this on a daily driver.

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Tansey86 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2003 Subaru Outback Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 1,318 Thanks: 154 Thanked 529 Times in 300 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Companies, when designing a turbo kit, either are able to provide very short IC piping, or very short exhaust piping. Each fabricator weighs the pros and cons of each route for each individual car. I have yet to see any true data on which way to go is better, but im sure both play a significant role. More often than not I see people push for short IC piping though. Relieving backpressure after the turbo doesn't seem to be a problem with 3" piping, given we don't need huge turbos because these cars weigh very little.

03-25-2013, 01:44 AM	#95
diss7 Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: AE86, 2x GT86, TE27 Location: Christchurch NZ Posts: 1,478 Thanks: 826 Thanked 1,181 Times in 522 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeh fair call. I was thinking rear, as in behind the motor. Lets call it mid mounted.

03-25-2013, 07:15 AM	#96
kask2_6.0 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 13 BRZ Location: San Diego Posts: 724 Thanks: 229 Thanked 512 Times in 256 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I may have missed it but are you running an EL or UEL header with this setup? Placement of the turbo almost looks like it could utilize almost any header (that has a flange in the stock location) with just the use of a different overpipe. That would be cool.

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