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Syldrin · 11-28-2011, 02:23 PM

i've hered 28K kicked around a few times. i wouldnt be surprised at all if it came out at that price.

Longhorn248 · 11-28-2011, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24

Mark my words.. 20k - 21k shall be the price....

I hope

Not gonna happen.

RRnold · 11-28-2011, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

They are releasing it as a Scion to try to save the brand.

It won't be 28k base. I just don't see it being the 20-22k either. I'd be happy to be wrong though

They should have left Scion to die out but being Japanese based, it would be a huge dishonor to see a brand fail.

Regardless of the price, at least the pure pricing should help reduce any potential dealer markup. This is the only highlight of it being released as a Scion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tripjammer

The trim levels have not been decided yet. That was a leaked training manual. The specs have changed a bit because 17 inch rims are on the supposedly on the low spec, 18 inches on the high spec.

99 percent of the cars we have seen are high-spec cars.

If Toyota is only building 1000 per year...they will all be one spec and high...with a few tuner stripped cars made also.

We will find out what the truth is tomorrow.

You sounded so sure until your last sentence!

Dave-ROR · 11-28-2011, 02:37 PM

And Toyota already said no pricing during the reveal..

Maybe by NAIAS?

Torquesteered · 11-28-2011, 02:38 PM

24,995$ for top spec without nav. and leather...

It almost has to cost that much, can't think of a single car atm with 200hp that is less then 23k. Better performance comes at a price, turning and stopping well costs money... parts cost more and tuning development costs more. This is a sportscar with low production numbers, it will cost a premium. That said, it cant be cost more then 25k because there are alot of cars in that price area to make most people look elsewhere.

Aki · 11-28-2011, 02:40 PM

I'm thinking at least $26k for top spec without navi, $30k all decked out. The base model can't be less than 22k, since that's Civic Si territory. I'm guessing $22-24k. But 24k would be a harder sell, because that goes against the Mustang V6. Given that they'er purportedly aiming to just break even, I'm hoping it'd be $22.5k.

Kiteless · 11-28-2011, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aki

I'm thinking at least $26k for top spec without navi, $30k all decked out. The base model can't be less than 22k, since that's Civic Si territory. I'm guessing $22-24k. But 24k would be a harder sell, because that goes against the Mustang V6. Given that they'er purportedly aiming to just break even, I'm hoping it'd be $22.5k.

I am right here with Aki. I think $22-$24K is a great guess. And I think that you still HAVE to look at Scions other cars and what they are charging.

Subaru has to carefully price the BRZ as well. You can get a 265hp 4WD WRX for $26K and it seems like Scoobie is gonna charge more for the BRZ than Scion will for the FRS. This is why I think it will come in close to 22K. It has to cost more than the tC but probably less than the BRZ.

$22-23K is the sweet spot for this car, IMO.

- Jason

Levi · 11-28-2011, 03:09 PM

This talk makes no sense. If you buy a brand new Audi RS5 will you think that for this money you would rather prefere a second hand Aston Martin V8 Vantage? And how will you maintain the Aston?

tripjammer · 11-28-2011, 03:16 PM

I hope you are right but its not going to happen because that's only $1k more than the Scion tC. The FRS is going to fall in price between the base Genesis 2.0t and the base WRX.

So think 24k to 25k fully loaded.

blur · 11-28-2011, 03:20 PM

When I talked to the dealer he said the scooby will cost 25K. They had dealer training in LA which apparently revealed the unofficial price tag.

CyberFormula · 11-28-2011, 03:26 PM

I'll pay $24500....but not for the basic model we've seen...

..if it has the TRD aero package..YES

For the basic model that doesn't look too appealing to me...ummmm No...i won't pay.

Ryuu0u · 11-28-2011, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberFormula

I'll pay $24500....but not for the basic model we've seen...

..if it has the TRD aero package..YES

For the basic model that doesn't look too appealing to me...ummmm No...i won't pay.

My thoughts exactly, 23k-24k for the TRD aero kit version with maybe just basic amenities such as A/C and a decent radio with AUX. Maybe better looking rims at least for that price but if they can lower the price and give me steelies then im down. Realistically im looking for the TRD version at 22k with steelies and cloth seats. I just can't wait to get my hands on this thing lol so jittery thinking about it.

KAuss · 11-28-2011, 03:35 PM

Depends on what is available as options, I'd pay $23K for base car, and tag on options I care about...

HID
Leather Wheel
I do want the bigger spoiler that reminds me of the Supra MKIV... Can do without the rest of the kit tho...
I'm not doing stock BBS rims even if the price is good... TE37!!!

Otherwise, the lighter the car the better!

Sabastian · 11-28-2011, 03:56 PM

I suspect that we won't see the steel-wheeled version in the US, because as a rule, the US typically only gets the mid-level to high spec versions. The rest of the world's mid-level car will be our "low-spec" and will start around $24-$25k. A loaded FR-S / BRZ will likely top out around $30-$32k with Nav, Leather, Heated Seats, etc. I'm sure people on this site will balk at these prices because all everyone seems to do is compare horsepower and price tag, but in reality, such a pricing scheme is right in line with most hot hatches and the 86's main rival, the MX-5. Save your pennies, kids.

11-28-2011, 02:37 PM	#18
Dave-ROR Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Stuff Location: Florida Posts: 10,317 Thanks: 955 Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts Mentioned: 262 Post(s)	And Toyota already said no pricing during the reveal.. Maybe by NAIAS? __________________ -Dave Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback DD: 2005 Acura TSX Tow: 2022 F-450 Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles

11-28-2011, 03:20 PM	#24
blur ლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლ Join Date: Apr 2010 Drives: E36 5.7 V8 Location: Bronx, NYC Posts: 1,573 Thanks: 194 Thanked 198 Times in 112 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s)	When I talked to the dealer he said the scooby will cost 25K. They had dealer training in LA which apparently revealed the unofficial price tag. __________________ I wish I was cool enough to have an FR-S

11-28-2011, 03:26 PM	#25
CyberFormula Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Drives: gti, nsx, integra type r,porsche911 Location: garage Posts: 536 Thanks: 1 Thanked 17 Times in 15 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	I'll pay $24500....but not for the basic model we've seen... ..if it has the TRD aero package..YES For the basic model that doesn't look too appealing to me...ummmm No...i won't pay. __________________

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Syldrin Troll Feeder Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: boosted scion tc. Location: camp pendleton Posts: 568 Thanks: 14 Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	i've hered 28K kicked around a few times. i wouldnt be surprised at all if it came out at that price.

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Torquesteered Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 07 fusion Location: central Illinois Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	24,995$ for top spec without nav. and leather... It almost has to cost that much, can't think of a single car atm with 200hp that is less then 23k. Better performance comes at a price, turning and stopping well costs money... parts cost more and tuning development costs more. This is a sportscar with low production numbers, it will cost a premium. That said, it cant be cost more then 25k because there are alot of cars in that price area to make most people look elsewhere.

11-28-2011, 02:40 PM	#20
Aki Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Drives: '96 beater Corolla Location: Cali Posts: 409 Thanks: 7 Thanked 32 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	I'm thinking at least $26k for top spec without navi, $30k all decked out. The base model can't be less than 22k, since that's Civic Si territory. I'm guessing $22-24k. But 24k would be a harder sell, because that goes against the Mustang V6. Given that they'er purportedly aiming to just break even, I'm hoping it'd be $22.5k.

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Levi Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: Toyota Location: Germany Posts: 1,202 Thanks: 134 Thanked 138 Times in 90 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s)	This talk makes no sense. If you buy a brand new Audi RS5 will you think that for this money you would rather prefere a second hand Aston Martin V8 Vantage? And how will you maintain the Aston?

11-28-2011, 03:16 PM	#23
tripjammer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Drives: WRB BRZ limited 6MT Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 2,765 Thanks: 3,109 Thanked 178 Times in 142 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s)	I hope you are right but its not going to happen because that's only $1k more than the Scion tC. The FRS is going to fall in price between the base Genesis 2.0t and the base WRX. So think 24k to 25k fully loaded.

11-28-2011, 03:35 PM	#27
KAuss Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Drives: 2005 X-Runner BSP Location: Bay Area Posts: 165 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s)	Depends on what is available as options, I'd pay $23K for base car, and tag on options I care about... HID Leather Wheel I do want the bigger spoiler that reminds me of the Supra MKIV... Can do without the rest of the kit tho... I'm not doing stock BBS rims even if the price is good... TE37!!! Otherwise, the lighter the car the better!

11-28-2011, 03:56 PM	#28
Sabastian will rain on your parade. Join Date: May 2011 Drives: 2007 Mini Cooper, 1996 Mazda MX-5 Location: WA, USA Posts: 136 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	I suspect that we won't see the steel-wheeled version in the US, because as a rule, the US typically only gets the mid-level to high spec versions. The rest of the world's mid-level car will be our "low-spec" and will start around $24-$25k. A loaded FR-S / BRZ will likely top out around $30-$32k with Nav, Leather, Heated Seats, etc. I'm sure people on this site will balk at these prices because all everyone seems to do is compare horsepower and price tag, but in reality, such a pricing scheme is right in line with most hot hatches and the 86's main rival, the MX-5. Save your pennies, kids.

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