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Old 03-23-2013, 02:31 PM   #15
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I check the forum everyday hoping for an update from Innovate.

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Old 03-23-2013, 02:51 PM   #16
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so innovate closed their thread... now where am I suppose to complain?! haha thanks for the info
Innovate is having issues right now at the shootout it ran a 16sec quarter mile and everytime I walked by someone had their head stuck under the hood. They are still getting the bugs out but it looks really promising!

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Old 03-23-2013, 03:17 PM   #17
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Innovate is having issues right now at the shootout it ran a 16sec quarter mile and everytime I walked by someone had their head stuck under the hood. They are still getting the bugs out but it looks really promising!

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saying Something is promising, or has great Potential is another way of saying its failing pretty hard ATM. I know a couple guys from highschool that had great potential... i think their managers at a fast food joint now.
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Innovate is having issues right now at the shootout it ran a 16sec quarter mile and everytime I walked by someone had their head stuck under the hood. They are still getting the bugs out but it looks really promising!

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16's... I could get my beater Neon into the 16's. That's deplorable.

I hope it's not the intercooler, because that would be hard to change. Damn, I really want this kit to work.
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Old 03-23-2013, 03:41 PM   #19
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Innovate has some damage control to do. I really REALLY want this kit, but I'm going to look into centrifugal kits. Their silence is telling. I'm giving them two months for something concrete. Otherwise my money ends up in someone else's pockets.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:04 PM   #20
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saying Something is promising, or has great Potential is another way of saying its failing pretty hard ATM. I know a couple guys from highschool that had great potential... i think their managers at a fast food joint now.
I'm not going to speak for them but I was hearing it was the tune on the car that caused it to go into something similar to limp mode and actually had nothing to do with the kit at all. Again that was from the shootout in the pits they didn't have it apart enough to know the real problem in my opinion. I really like the kit and I hope they are hard at work figuring out what went wrong. I'm sure they have way to much time and money into the project to scrap it at this point.
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I'm not going to speak for them but I was hearing it was the tune on the car that caused it to go into something similar to limp mode and actually had nothing to do with the kit at all. Again that was from the shootout in the pits they didn't have it apart enough to know the real problem in my opinion. I really like the kit and I hope they are hard at work figuring out what went wrong. I'm sure they have way to much time and money into the project to scrap it at this point.
Unfortunately, that's not how R&D works. A business has to weigh potential profits against R&D costs. If they think they won't make back what they spend in R&D they'll scrap the whole project rather than risk going in the hole financially.

The longer this takes and the more problems they have, the LESS likely it is to ever make it to market.
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Old 03-23-2013, 08:27 PM   #22
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Old 03-23-2013, 08:39 PM   #23
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tuning for 5 psi at redline cant be easy
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I was hearing it was the tune on the car
They announced their kit on Oct 22, 2012 - they couldn't get a workable tune from someone in 5 months? Why not use JV's tune? Or why show up to the Shootout on a brand new untested tune? I thought they had been road testing this for months and were really close to release. It doesn't add up...
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They announced their kit on Oct 22, 2012 - they couldn't get a workable tune from someone in 5 months? Why not use JV's tune? Or why show up to the Shootout on a brand new untested tune? I thought they had been road testing this for months and were really close to release. It doesn't add up...
I hear they were using a tune from visconti and something went wrong and it just happened to be on that particular day. I'm not defending them or their product and I have no clue if that was the real problem that is just what I heard at the event I know another FR-S that was there was also broke and they offered up their ecu so they could finish the event but I don't know if they used it or not.

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I hear they were using a tune from visconti and something went wrong and it just happened to be on that particular day. I'm not defending them or their product and I have no clue if that was the real problem that is just what I heard at the event I know another FR-S that was there was also broke and they offered up their ecu so they could finish the event but I don't know if they used it or not.

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I wonder if they went for broke and tried a smaller pulley, putting the car into overboost mode and cutting power?
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I love how this looks. Has anyone contacted Bullet?
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I love how this looks. Has anyone contacted Bullet?
Yes, I did a few weeks ago.

I posted the information in the other thread, but it didn't seem to satisfy those demanding a dyno graph

Here's the info again I received...





I don't have any more details.

This is the email I received after asking for a dyno graph....

Hi Mike
As you can see it takes the flat spot at 3500 right out and has a much more progressive power curve.
I will be away at the salt lakes for 2 Weeks.
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I did reply asking for more info (psi, intercooled/non-intercooled) but have not heard anything yet.
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