FR-S/BRZ vs. Genesis Coupe

[cassidy0998]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

The have copied. Ridiculously so.

I don't agree. Show me an example.

[aliphian]

Originally Posted by cassidy0998

I don't agree. Show me an example.

[Dragonitti]

Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

im just saying the engine is underrated OR has hardcore emissions restrictions....

probability of it being one of those.... pretty good...

Gotcha

Originally Posted by fatoni

its not me being anal. just me showing that some people are but its all good. having different reference points doesnt make cars any faster or slower, it just earns people posts with famous people doing facepalms in this pseudoculture where everybody is a badass thanks to google and the fact that there is a low chance for a physical encounter

Yeah I wasn't meaning you, it's all good.

[Matador]

Originally Posted by Dark

You're right, LS is not Crown. It's just LS design was heavily derived from Crown.

Looks wise you mean? Cause otherwise it wasn't.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

Looks wise you mean? Cause otherwise it wasn't.

LS =



(ex-Celsior)

[old greg]

Originally Posted by serialk11r

If the dyno attaches at hubs, there is no rolling resistance from the wheels That's actually how it should be measured, no one factors in aerodynamic resistance so rolling resistance shouldn't be either, of course assuming you care to know exactly how much power your car puts to the ground.

It's not so much the rolling resistance of the tires that makes the big difference in readings from a hub dyno, it's the lack of the rotational inertia of the wheels and tires.

Originally Posted by Dimman

LS = (ex-Celsior)

My hat is off to you, sir.

[Dragonitti]

Originally Posted by old greg

It's not so much the rolling resistance of the tires that makes the big difference in readings from a hub dyno, it's the lack of the rotational inertia of the wheels and tires.

True that, that's why I really can't take Hub dyno (Dynapack) seriously. The numbers are SUPER high on most cases.

[old greg]

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

True that, that's why I really can't take Hub dyno (Dynapack) seriously. The numbers are SUPER high on most cases.

I think they're fantastic. They are much more versatile/portable than a traditional dyno, and they are quite good when you actually need to tune a car (waaay better than a Dynojet). The only place they fall short is when you try to compare dyno numbers over the interwebz.

[Dark]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

Looks wise you mean? Cause otherwise it wasn't.

Yup, look wise. The original LS was very similar to Crown from the same time.

Originally Posted by Dimman

LS =



(ex-Celsior)

Thanks Dimman, I forgot about Celsior.

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by pastuch

Your in the minority... nearly 80% of the people on Gencoupe forum voted that they dislike the new front end. I think it's one of the worst redesigns I've ever seen. The fake plastic hood scoops are embarrassing! The new tail lights are beautiful though and I like most of the interior redesign. Hopefully they use higher grade leather and a better transmission for 2013.

The 2013 front bumper SCREAMS Elantra+Mazda 3 and that is NOT a good thing.

I've driven 5 GCs, all three model years. The 2010 is a shit-box: Overall reliability is bad and the first years Manual transmissions were plagued with 4th and 5th gear grinds. The sunroof had issues and I noticed a lot of squeaks and rattles. The front door speakers in particular. I couldn't believe how much better the M6 in the 2011 felt, I thought I was driving a different car! The 2012 was also very solid with fewer quality control issue "noises".

The 2013 should be a a substantial improvement, Hyundai does listen to customer feedback. They put the engine we want in the 2.0T and fixed interior issues like the seatbelt holder. I just wish they put the Vega bumper on the 2013 with the new headlights and didn't include cheesy fake hood scoops. It screams low rent!

I heard the hood scoops are real...most people who don't have a GC like the new 2013 look. They say the previous ones looked too sedate.

If they keep the price the same....350HP in the V6 with direct injection an 275 Hp in the turbo 4....sounds like an awesome deal to me....more than likely they fixed the manual tranny issues. Also it has a 8 speed automatic for peeps who like automatics. The car should get good gas mileage.

[madfast]

Originally Posted by old greg

I think they're fantastic. They are much more versatile/portable than a traditional dyno, and they are quite good when you actually need to tune a car (waaay better than a Dynojet). The only place they fall short is when you try to compare dyno numbers over the interwebz.

[Dragonitti]

Originally Posted by old greg

I think they're fantastic. They are much more versatile/portable than a traditional dyno, and they are quite good when you actually need to tune a car (waaay better than a Dynojet). The only place they fall short is when you try to compare dyno numbers over the interwebz.

They are to inflated for my taste. I prefer a Dyno Dynamics or a Mustang dyno. I put my trust in having a great tuner, not the dyno.

[Jah1mon]

Is the new engine or the engine in the sonata based on the EVO engine?

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Jah1mon

Is the new engine or the engine in the sonata based on the EVO engine?

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