RCE vs Swift: Any Insight? - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

wparsons · 03-19-2013, 02:49 PM

^^ Absolutely not, at least not from being linear alone. If the rates are way too high then it doesn't matter if it's linear or progressive.

eikond · 03-19-2013, 03:16 PM

Should I worry that RCE's will create more understeer? To a fault perhaps?

Calum · 03-19-2013, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by eikond

Should I worry that RCE's will create more understeer? To a fault perhaps?

In a steady state corner the stock setup is fine, the front end lets go a little before the back making for a 'safe' setup. But have you hit the front bump stops yet? I have a few reducing radius turns on my way to work that I like playing with. Even on OEM tires I have to slow down so I don't run into the damn bump stops and have the back end of my car start racing with the front end.

I like a car that's predictable and controllable at the edge. I honestly can't believe the FRS was release the way it is.

mechaghost · 03-19-2013, 04:12 PM

I have RCE yellows and love them!

Draco-REX · 03-19-2013, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by eikond

Should I worry that RCE's will create more understeer? To a fault perhaps?

Not at all. Springs are just part of the equasion. Get a good alignment with some actual negative camber and the car will be wonderfully neutral. RCE's starter kit is great for getting a real alignment.

eikond · 03-19-2013, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Draco-REX

Not at all. Springs are just part of the equasion. Get a good alignment with some actual negative camber and the car will be wonderfully neutral. RCE's starter kit is great for getting a real alignment.

I've got a set of Yellows ready to install as soon as the weather gets a little warmer. I have some camber bolts as well.. should be a good start.

Draco-REX · 03-19-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by eikond

I've got a set of Yellows ready to install as soon as the weather gets a little warmer. I have some camber bolts as well.. should be a good start.

With the starter kit I'm at -2 degrees front camber and -0.8 degrees rear. The car may want more in the rear, but that's where I'm at for now. On the street it's very neutral. The rear will stick when I want or start following the front if I let it. The front is just perfect with godly amounts of grip.

I've had to wait 7 months to get this to an AutoX. Hopefully it'll be warm enough on the 30th to get a good test. I'm very confident.

feldy · 03-20-2013, 12:25 PM

I have a set of these RCE springs in the garage. My car is pretty tail happy even with a alignment. Hoping these settle the back end down a bit. Worried the rebound is going to get even worse though.

Grimlock · 03-20-2013, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by feldy

I have a set of these RCE springs in the garage. My car is pretty tail happy even with a alignment. Hoping these settle the back end down a bit. Worried the rebound is going to get even worse though.

What do you have installed for camber correction? What is your alignment?

bakerr6 · 03-20-2013, 01:09 PM

anyone compare these to mach v springs?

feldy · 03-20-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Grimlock

What do you have installed for camber correction? What is your alignment?

this is what its at. Soon to be installed are the springs and whiteline rear camber bushings.

Grimlock · 03-20-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by feldy

this is what its at. Soon to be installed are the springs and whiteline rear camber bushings.

From what I hear, a bit of toe in the rear (1/16") really settles the back end down. I go for my alignment next week and that's what I'm going to get.

Do you have crash bolts up front? Which ones?

feldy · 03-20-2013, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Grimlock

From what I hear, a bit of toe in the rear (1/16") really settles the back end down. I go for my alignment next week and that's what I'm going to get.

Do you have crash bolts up front? Which ones?

I have whiteline camber bolts.

panoy86 · 03-20-2013, 08:36 PM

Very useful thread, thanks all. I met 1 fellow FR-S owner, sw20kosh (i think???) at Thunderhill, and from what I recall he posted a 2:12 on RCE Yellows with 245 or 255 width tires, very impressed.

Anyone knows if any vendor sells the RCE Yellows as a "kit", i.e., springs, camber correction bolts/perches, etc, etc?

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