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hez · 11-27-2011, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Navi

Stop stressing about numbers, this car is about driving and fun, not 0.1 faster to 60mph, nobody cares.

You're probably right. :happy0180:

spin9k · 11-27-2011, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Navi

Stop stressing about numbers, this car is about driving and fun, not 0.1 faster to 60mph, nobody cares.

If for even a fleeting moment it was possible for this to be true

enthusiasts on car forums all over the world be speechless.

But it isn't, been there, just watch.

Navi · 11-27-2011, 10:14 AM

Watch the presentation of the Toyota CEO, he explains getting into this car and the thrill of true driving will be the main point.

200HP and a high revving engine will be fine, of course the aftermarket will help us alot tune these cars to the max. Dont worry about that, within a year we will be seeing 500+ HP turbocharged cars. (dont start the argument about the 12.5CR now plz, its not important and easy to overcome.)

Dont focus on turbo's, parts and all that stuff, it all starts with the heart.

tripjammer · 11-27-2011, 10:34 AM

The estimated 7.0 secs was from 0 to 62 mph...
The supposedly got the weight down to close to 2600 pounds..we will see low 6 secs maybe upper 5 secs 0 to 60 mph times here in the states. Hopefully...

Navi · 11-27-2011, 10:39 AM

Low 6, maybe 5's !? No way.

My Ford Fiesta ST150 is a 2.0 16v, 150hp / 190nm , weighs 1137kg and does 0-62mph in 8.4s.

Toyota is 200hp / 190 some nm and 1180 kg.

The 7.0 secs for the GT86 isnt far off m8. 0-60 will be high 6's.

Lasse · 11-27-2011, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Navi

Low 6, maybe 5's !? No way.

My Ford Fiesta ST150 is a 2.0 16v, 150hp / 190nm , weighs 1137kg and does 0-62mph in 8.4s.

Toyota is 200hp / 190 some nm and 1180 kg.

The 7.0 secs for the GT86 isnt far off m8.

How fast was Celica T-sport in real life? Power to weight ratio is almost the same...

Corolla T-sport sprints in real life test 0-100km/h in 7.7 sec. So this was about 0-64mph(?). Corolla was heavier and fwd. So i personally believe that under 7s is possible for GT86.

Navi · 11-27-2011, 10:46 AM

0-100 km/h (or kph) = 0-62 mph, not 64

tripjammer · 11-27-2011, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Navi

Low 6, maybe 5's !? No way.

My Ford Fiesta ST150 is a 2.0 16v, 150hp / 190nm , weighs 1137kg and does 0-62mph in 8.4s.

Toyota is 200hp / 190 some nm and 1180 kg.

The 7.0 secs for the GT86 isnt far off m8. 0-60 will be high 6's.

It's rwd low 6s will be possible...high 5s with a special driver beating the hell out of it. Hehe..

Navi · 11-27-2011, 10:48 AM

Dont think so, Renault Clio RS has a 2.0 200hp engine and does 0-62 in 6.9 secs.

Say RWD will do a little better, 6.5, wont be lower then that m8.

Hell a peugeot RCZ with 1.6 turbo 200hp weighs a little heavier (100kg) and does 0-62 in 7.5...

Not that its important anyway.

Lasse · 11-27-2011, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Navi

0-100 km/h (or kph) = 0-62 mph, not 64

Thanks! I wasn't sure was it 62 or 64

But yeah, your right. 0-62 time doesn't mean a thing. It's all about the balance, fun and want-factor. This car have big mojo, i think. It look soooo goood...

Navi · 11-27-2011, 11:01 AM

It will being back the spirit of the old school cars, AE82, AE86, Supra, Nissan Silvia / 200SX, old Evo's , WRX, etc

Buggy51 · 11-27-2011, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Navi

Stop stressing about numbers, this car is about driving and fun, not 0.1 faster to 60mph, nobody cares.

Hey I'm stressing about the price, which IS a number.

Navi · 11-27-2011, 03:58 PM

True!

Buggy51 · 11-27-2011, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Navi

True!

Correction, I'm also stressing about hte production numbers that Leeky has mentioned lol. Which I suppose is indirectly related to price.

Le sigh

11-27-2011, 10:14 AM	#59
Navi Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Peugeot RCZ EP7 4E-FTE Ford ST150 Location: NL Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Watch the presentation of the Toyota CEO, he explains getting into this car and the thrill of true driving will be the main point. 200HP and a high revving engine will be fine, of course the aftermarket will help us alot tune these cars to the max. Dont worry about that, within a year we will be seeing 500+ HP turbocharged cars. (dont start the argument about the 12.5CR now plz, its not important and easy to overcome.) Dont focus on turbo's, parts and all that stuff, it all starts with the heart. __________________ 1987 Corolla AE82 4AGTE - Sold 1988 Starlet EP71 4EFTE - Current 2008 Ford Fiesta ST150 - Current 2010 Peugeot RCZ - Current Visit: http://www.4agte.nl

11-27-2011, 10:39 AM	#61
Navi Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Peugeot RCZ EP7 4E-FTE Ford ST150 Location: NL Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Low 6, maybe 5's !? No way. My Ford Fiesta ST150 is a 2.0 16v, 150hp / 190nm , weighs 1137kg and does 0-62mph in 8.4s. Toyota is 200hp / 190 some nm and 1180 kg. The 7.0 secs for the GT86 isnt far off m8. 0-60 will be high 6's. __________________ 1987 Corolla AE82 4AGTE - Sold 1988 Starlet EP71 4EFTE - Current 2008 Ford Fiesta ST150 - Current 2010 Peugeot RCZ - Current Visit: http://www.4agte.nl

11-27-2011, 10:46 AM	#63
Navi Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Peugeot RCZ EP7 4E-FTE Ford ST150 Location: NL Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	0-100 km/h (or kph) = 0-62 mph, not 64 __________________ 1987 Corolla AE82 4AGTE - Sold 1988 Starlet EP71 4EFTE - Current 2008 Ford Fiesta ST150 - Current 2010 Peugeot RCZ - Current Visit: http://www.4agte.nl

11-27-2011, 10:48 AM	#65
Navi Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Peugeot RCZ EP7 4E-FTE Ford ST150 Location: NL Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Dont think so, Renault Clio RS has a 2.0 200hp engine and does 0-62 in 6.9 secs. Say RWD will do a little better, 6.5, wont be lower then that m8. Hell a peugeot RCZ with 1.6 turbo 200hp weighs a little heavier (100kg) and does 0-62 in 7.5... Not that its important anyway. __________________ 1987 Corolla AE82 4AGTE - Sold 1988 Starlet EP71 4EFTE - Current 2008 Ford Fiesta ST150 - Current 2010 Peugeot RCZ - Current Visit: http://www.4agte.nl

11-27-2011, 11:01 AM	#67
Navi Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Peugeot RCZ EP7 4E-FTE Ford ST150 Location: NL Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It will being back the spirit of the old school cars, AE82, AE86, Supra, Nissan Silvia / 200SX, old Evo's , WRX, etc __________________ 1987 Corolla AE82 4AGTE - Sold 1988 Starlet EP71 4EFTE - Current 2008 Ford Fiesta ST150 - Current 2010 Peugeot RCZ - Current Visit: http://www.4agte.nl

11-27-2011, 03:58 PM	#69
Navi Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Peugeot RCZ EP7 4E-FTE Ford ST150 Location: NL Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	True! __________________ 1987 Corolla AE82 4AGTE - Sold 1988 Starlet EP71 4EFTE - Current 2008 Ford Fiesta ST150 - Current 2010 Peugeot RCZ - Current Visit: http://www.4agte.nl

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