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BobbyBalaz · 11-27-2011, 10:48 AM

Very sure that gearbox is based on IS-F. It's confirmed on leaked brochure, & also if you look into 10 min 15 sec of the second official video released by Toyota earlier, it's stated again, derived from an IS-F transmission.

http://www.toyota-global.com/company...nce/index.html

lancie · 11-27-2011, 10:51 AM

hand-made???=$$$$$$$!!!

MiguelAE86 · 11-27-2011, 10:51 AM

What?! I want to call all of this lies :"( this will surely make the car unobtainable to some people! And APRIL?! THATS A LONG WAY FROM.NOW!

BobbyBalaz · 11-27-2011, 10:52 AM

Leeky's translator might be unintentionally feeding slightly skewed information. Either way, keep those updates coming through mate!

Dave-ROR · 11-27-2011, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JIMs|a|MILLION

I think we're all getting ahead of ourselves...myself included

it makes sense for Toyota to be saying only 1000 units pre release to create interest and DEMAND for the car

The whole each unit being hand built makes sense too. This is a smaller niche car that they would only do a limited production run of (something like 3-8 years)

It wouldn't make sense to put the money into creating a fully automated assembly line like they did with say the camry's.

The GT86 will probably be on a smaller assembly line which still has people doing most of the work. I think people are jumping to conclusions and thinking supercar style handbuilt with a pit and a crew per car.

again these are all speculation...but I've stopped to have my morning coffee and am thinking logically now.

It won't be completely handbuilt even at the low numbers. It's too hard to get everything right and costs too much. Reprogramming robots is easy.

It will be hand assembled like most cars (with the help of robots moving the parts) I'm sure, but not hand built. Very few cars are truely hand built, and they all show that in the price.

yayforaddison · 11-27-2011, 11:01 AM

If this really is 1000 units a year, I better call Scion/Subaru now and give them my deposit!

torquemada · 11-27-2011, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yayforaddison

If this really is 1000 units a year, I better call Scion/Subaru now and give them my deposit!

naaa, Subaru build them with machines, 50.000 units per year

poormans_LFA · 11-27-2011, 11:03 AM

Porsche doesn't even make less than 1000 caymans a year. bogus.

Jezza_hr · 11-27-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by poormans_LFA

Porsche doesn't even make less than 1000 caymans a year. bogus.

launch day numbers perhaps? There has to be something logical behind this or something lost in translation.

jimmillion · 11-27-2011, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by torquemada

naaa, Subaru build them with machines, 50.000 units per year

source? so far the belief is that their being built in the same factory....

Matador · 11-27-2011, 11:13 AM

1000 units worldwide? Madness.

And I think you mean IS F gearbox, not LFA.

Dragonitti · 11-27-2011, 11:18 AM

Lucky guy to be over there during this time. Jealous.

subatoy · 11-27-2011, 11:28 AM

$3,000 units x $30k (the price is just to play it safe)= $9million
I bet each working prototype costs $1million plus all the other prototypes, research etc. I'm sure developing that DI FB engine alone costed more than $9million.

there is NO freaking way in the world a company would do this
the NO profit cars is for Supercars that work as advertisement,
this car will be slow in HP standards so that wouldn't be good advertisement.

Snoopyalien24 · 11-27-2011, 11:34 AM

so.. many...newbs ... lol

Thanks leeky for your awesome pics and congrats on the trip once again!

I think the 1000 that will be made is talking about Japan really. Or to increase interest. the S2000 sold ~3000 its first year, then like ~7000 the next and ~9000 its 3rd (just US numbers), so I wouldn't mind the number. Plus, I'm pretty sure you can order one to your preference, just have to wait like, 6-8 weeks lol :/

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11-27-2011, 10:48 AM	#43
BobbyBalaz Humble Newbie Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Golf GTI MK6 (DSG) Location: Earth Posts: 30 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	Very sure that gearbox is based on IS-F. It's confirmed on leaked brochure, & also if you look into 10 min 15 sec of the second official video released by Toyota earlier, it's stated again, derived from an IS-F transmission. http://www.toyota-global.com/company...nce/index.html

11-27-2011, 10:51 AM	#44
lancie Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: brz wrb Location: italy Posts: 1,161 Thanks: 23 Thanked 87 Times in 28 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s)	hand-made???=$$$$$$$!!!

11-27-2011, 10:51 AM	#45
MiguelAE86 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Drives: NB Miata Location: Florida Posts: 775 Thanks: 425 Thanked 120 Times in 58 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s)	What?! I want to call all of this lies :"( this will surely make the car unobtainable to some people! And APRIL?! THATS A LONG WAY FROM.NOW!

11-27-2011, 10:52 AM	#46
BobbyBalaz Humble Newbie Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Golf GTI MK6 (DSG) Location: Earth Posts: 30 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	Leeky's translator might be unintentionally feeding slightly skewed information. Either way, keep those updates coming through mate!

11-27-2011, 11:01 AM	#48
yayforaddison Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Drives: Whiteout FR-S Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 344 Thanks: 95 Thanked 52 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	If this really is 1000 units a year, I better call Scion/Subaru now and give them my deposit!

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poormans_LFA FT86Club.com O.G. Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: Gunmetal Gundam Wing Zero Custom Location: socal Posts: 1,455 Thanks: 244 Thanked 221 Times in 78 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s)	Porsche doesn't even make less than 1000 caymans a year. bogus.

11-27-2011, 11:18 AM	#54
Dragonitti Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Drives: Boosted Scion tC, 350z Location: TN Posts: 1,779 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	Lucky guy to be over there during this time. Jealous.

11-27-2011, 11:28 AM	#55
subatoy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: subatoy Location: Atlanta Posts: 667 Thanks: 32 Thanked 198 Times in 106 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s)	$3,000 units x $30k (the price is just to play it safe)= $9million I bet each working prototype costs $1million plus all the other prototypes, research etc. I'm sure developing that DI FB engine alone costed more than $9million. there is NO freaking way in the world a company would do this the NO profit cars is for Supercars that work as advertisement, this car will be slow in HP standards so that wouldn't be good advertisement.

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