Toyota plans 4 door RWD sedan version of GT-86 sport car, here is a rendering

[rice_classic]

Originally Posted by MVJ1975

I'm cool with a roadster, but not this. Let's not turn this into a Toyota 3-series, shall we?

You do realize that Tada-san himself said he wants the GT-86 to become a "mini-brand" with different variants like what BMW did with Mini... right?

Well, he did and if things keep going his way then we get the GT86 convertible, then maybe a sedan, then maybe a wagon. Well, the USA most likely won't get the wagon due to CAFE standards but still you get the point.

[MVJ1975]

Originally Posted by rice_classic

You do realize that Tada-san himself said he wants the GT-86 to become a "mini-brand" with different variants like what BMW did with Mini... right?

Well, he did and if things keep going his way then we get the GT86 convertible, then maybe a sedan, then maybe a wagon. Well, the USA most likely won't get the wagon due to CAFE standards but still you get the point.

Sure, and that's cool. There's no oddness in the Mini brand - they're all pretty much the same shape (Mini coupe notwithstanding) and they're all pretty clearly Minis. A wagon 86 would be a far larger departure from the concept than anything Mini's done... and it wouldn't sell in the US because nobody buys wagons here anymore. A shame, too, as they're far more interesting than CUVs or (puke) minivans.

[rice_classic]

Originally Posted by Superhatch

This is the first non-hatch I've owned. Civic's, CRX, MCS, 240, xD. I'd be really interested in a hatch version, but wonder about balance with that much more weight over the rear.

Since this car is somewhat front biased one could theoretically presume that they could produce a hatch-ish version and limit the weight moved backwards from center to produce a then 50/50 dist.

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by MVJ1975

There's no oddness in the Mini brand - they're all pretty much the same shape (Mini coupe notwithstanding) and they're all pretty clearly Minis. A wagon 86 would be a far larger departure from the concept than anything Mini's done... .

Disagree!


This is how NOT to do a 5-door!

[rice_classic]

Originally Posted by MVJ1975

Sure, and that's cool. There's no oddness in the Mini brand - they're all pretty much the same shape (Mini coupe notwithstanding) and they're all pretty clearly Minis. A wagon 86 would be a far larger departure from the concept than anything Mini's done... and it wouldn't sell in the US because nobody buys wagons here anymore.

Mini has a clubman, countryman and SUV and roadster... Kind of the same, kind of big differences. I would imagine Tada-san "Variation on a theme" would be in a similar vein.





Mini-Crossover SUV:



Larger Mini countryman:



Roadster:



Mini Clubman:

[MVJ1975]

Originally Posted by ZDan

Disagree!


This is how NOT to do a 5-door!

I'm torn on the Countryman - in a way I think it's kinda lame, but then I get the "Mini Monster Truck" vibe from it, and I kinda like that too.

That said, I wouldn't mind if Mini axed it. It's the only four-door Mini and that in itself makes it "un-Mini".

I wonder how much of the 86 sedan's raison-d'etre could be preempted by making the Yaris a little sportier. Tighten up the suspension and give it a front LSD with a better power plant a la Focus ST.

[RRnold]

Inspired by the GTS... inspired by the 2000GT... makes a 4 door and convertible version.

I remember seeing the old FT86 4 door renders but Toyota really follows up with it, they'll water this car down.

[gily25]

Make room for 4 adults, add the weight of 4 adults, now change the weight to 4 American adults...realize the engine pushes only 200hp and has a significant torque dip...realize car will be a dog as a sedan and 86 will gain a reputation that they all suck.

Now if we're adding a turbo or tweaking the car to gain at least 50hp and remove torque dip (oem, not talking add-ons) and these changes will be available on future coupes then sure I'm game.

[lemonspeakers]

Originally Posted by vh_supra26

Ran across this article this morning. Thought I share it, and sorry if its a repost.

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They already have the FRS in a sedan.
It's the Camry.

[shawnperolis]

Originally Posted by lemonspeakers

They already have the FRS in a sedan.
It's the Camry.

If they made a RWD Camry I would have bought that.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by shawnperolis

If they made a RWD Camry I would have bought that.

I think that was a sarcasm, cuz Camry has almost same fog light design

[shawnperolis]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

I think that was a sarcasm, cuz Camry has almost same fog light design

haha I know it was sarcasm. But the Camry is pretty badass... They just need to make it with a manual trans and RWD.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by shawnperolis

haha I know it was sarcasm. But the Camry is pretty badass... They just need to make it with a manual trans and RWD.

Yeah... but that'll rune the Toyota (USA) motto "eco, cheap & AT"

[shawnperolis]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Yeah... but that'll rune the Toyota (USA) motto "eco, cheap & AT"

haha old people would be afraid of buying Toyotas if they weren't brown, automatic, and cheap as hell.