Berk vs. Works (AB-R) Muffler Delete

[Ahernandez0909]

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

I'd go with the AB if you plan on keeping everything else in the exhaust stock, AB-M if not.

That's the thing... Idk if I'm eventually getting a mid pipe or not

[86_ZN6]

Originally Posted by Ahernandez0909

That's the thing... Idk if I'm eventually getting a mid pipe or not

AB-M is the safest option IMHO

[Ahernandez0909]

But I love the delete sound ughhhh I'm so indecisive.... Heads or tails... Haha

[vtmike]

If you're considering something muffled the nameless axleback is better than both of those. Better sound, better steel, and better welds. They also have a dual exit muffler delete. It's more expensive than the other 2 but you get what you pay for. If this is your daily I wouldn't consider anything that's aluminized steel.

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[vtmike]

Originally Posted by vtmike

If you're considering something muffled the nameless axleback is better than both of those. Better sound, better steel, and better welds. They also have a dual exit muffler delete. It's more expensive than the other 2 but you get what you pay for. If this is your daily I wouldn't consider anything that's aluminized steel.

Although you may be alright if you don't leave souther ca often.

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[ATL BRZ]

Originally Posted by vtmike

If you're considering something muffled the nameless axleback is better than both of those. Better sound, better steel, and better welds. They also have a dual exit muffler delete. It's more expensive than the other 2 but you get what you pay for. If this is your daily I wouldn't consider anything that's aluminized steel.

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All opinions, and off topic at that, but hey, thanks. I don't get why some people think mig welded aluminized steel with a coating on top is going to just fall apart, lol, give me a break. I personally find the Nameless way too quiet to warrant the cost. Also the design is just too complicated with all the piping and bends. I like simple designs and more significant weight savings. To each their own... right?

Originally Posted by Ahernandez0909

But I love the delete sound ughhhh I'm so indecisive.... Heads or tails... Haha

After watching the AB-M videos, to me it sounds like 75% as loud as the delete but a more gentlemanly tone. I'm also planning ahead for headers and midpipe in the distant future, so that's why I'm going with it. The works midpipe bolts right up and frees up 6hp, I like that it will fit the OEM muffler too in case I ever want to go quieter in the future.

The AB is probably 90% as loud as the delete without the drone.

[vtmike]

I can understand not liking a particular design or sound. But, there are plenty of "simple" designs that use quality materials.

Motiv and perrin to name two.

It's a fact aluminized steel is going to fail sooner than t304. I don't understand why people would spend 27k on a new car and put a cheap exhaust on it that is worse quality than what came on it.

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[sierra]

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

Looking forward to getting my AB-M shortly.

Here's a vid of it (WORKS AB-M) for those curious:

That video showed the left hand side is a waste of time with all the flow and sound coming from the right hand tip, as you would expect. I don't see the point? Why not just have a track pipe and a dummy tip on the right side?
It would save weight and be more efficient.

[ATL BRZ]

Originally Posted by vtmike

It's a fact aluminized steel is going to fail sooner than t304. I don't understand why people would spend 27k on a new car and put a cheap exhaust on it that is worse quality than what came on it.

Originally Posted by sierra

That video showed the left hand side is a waste of time with all the flow and sound coming from the right hand tip, as you would expect. I don't see the point? Why not just have a track pipe and a dummy tip on the right side?
It would save weight and be more efficient.

If you pay closer attention you'll see the flow change dynamically from the left tip at idle to both tips in the midrange to mostly the right tip in higher rpms. A dummy tip wouldn't be audible in person and a single exit track pipe doesn't rumble nearly as much as a true dual exit.

[vtmike]

Originally Posted by sierra

That video showed the left hand side is a waste of time with all the flow and sound coming from the right hand tip, as you would expect. I don't see the point? Why not just have a track pipe and a dummy tip on the right side?
It would save weight and be more efficient.

Apparently it comes out one side off load and out the other during load. Looks bad in my opinion to have dual exit exhaust with exhaust gas only coming out one side at a time.

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[ATL BRZ]

Originally Posted by vtmike

Apparently it comes out one side off load and out the other during load. Looks bad in my opinion to have dual exit exhaust with exhaust gas only coming out one side at a time.

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Because exhaust gases on a n/a car with two cats are so visible all the time, especially when it has warmed up,

[vtmike]

Enjoy your cheap, poorly designed and fabricated exhaust. and replace in 2 years when it rusts through

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[ATL BRZ]

Originally Posted by vtmike

Enjoy your cheap, poorly designed and fabricated exhaust. and replace in 2 years when it rusts through

[sierra]

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

If you pay closer attention you'll see the flow change dynamically from the left tip at idle to both tips in the midrange to mostly the right tip in higher rpms. A dummy tip wouldn't be audible in person and a single exit track pipe doesn't rumble nearly as much as a true dual exit.

I did pay close attention and the flow is the same as if water was flowing through and the tips were pointing down. It dribbles out of the left pipe on idle but with a bit of pressure it all squirts out of the right pipe.

Compared to something like a Nameless axleback it's very crude but each to their own.