Would you want a spare tire in your FR-S? - Page 6 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

chulooz · 11-20-2011, 04:45 PM

No spare, I have my number to AAA, keep the ~30lbs.

suprachica79 · 11-20-2011, 05:06 PM

I have AAA as well, I'd still rather save my 3 tows in a given year for real car trouble, not a flat. I don't know why people care so much. If you don't want the flat, just take it out of the car.

Neutral_Eyes · 11-20-2011, 05:49 PM

Full size spare. Junk in a can is terrible, and donuts aren't much better. Pride wouldn't let me call roadside assistance for a damn flat tire.

suprachica79 · 11-20-2011, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neutral_Eyes

Full size spare. Junk in a can is terrible, and donuts aren't much better. Pride wouldn't let me call roadside assistance for a damn flat tire.

^This.

speed-wiz · 11-20-2011, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suprachica79

If you don't want the flat, just take it out of the car.

According to Murphy's law, if you do want a flat, take your spare out of your car.

I know, I know, you meant to say "spare", not "flat"

serialk11r · 11-20-2011, 08:19 PM

I dunno about car tires, but the goo stuff works great on bike tires

It really is as they say, you put it in, spin the tire around for a bit, and go on your way, and it more or less works.

RegisBou · 11-22-2011, 03:35 PM

There is a difference between shaving weight...and keeping the car's balance.

I am kind of disappointed that this car will be 53/47 in terms of distribution.

If anything I will put a heavier jack (one that will not break) and a full size spare of whatever choice of rims I get including the same tires.

I will gladly add 50lbs in the rear and somehow figure out how to lighten the front end to get 50/50 balance.

Lighter headers, better rotors, lighter wheels, etc.

I am not a fan of understeer!! haha

Critics welcome..

Sony · 11-22-2011, 07:07 PM

As this will be my daily driver, yes I would like a spare, donut or fullsize I don't care. Would prefer not to be stuck on the side of the road and I'll probably just take the spare out when I go to the track if I'm REALLY that concerned about weight.

Matador · 11-22-2011, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RegisBou

There is a difference between shaving weight...and keeping the car's balance.

I am kind of disappointed that this car will be 53/47 in terms of distribution.

If anything I will put a heavier jack (one that will not break) and a full size spare of whatever choice of rims I get including the same tires.

I will gladly add 50lbs in the rear and somehow figure out how to lighten the front end to get 50/50 balance.

Lighter headers, better rotors, lighter wheels, etc.

I am not a fan of understeer!! haha

Critics welcome..

MrVito · 11-22-2011, 10:54 PM

Colin Chapman says "add lightness", not a heavier jack in the trunk

RegisBou · 11-23-2011, 12:15 AM

Explain to me the face palm?

I really could care less about power. I drive a 103bhp fwd 2400lbs car. Im sure 200bhp and just 300lbs more will feel a whole lot faster.

Maybe the facepalm is appropriate, but why make it so big?

In the end after changing rotors, rims, tires, the car will weigh the same, just with a different weight distribution.

I'm not being "stupid". I would rather have a safe jack while improving distribution then taking out everything and being f'd when a flat tire ruins my day.

Either way have fun joshing on people as you always do. We have always had arguments. yes since way back in 2009 haha

Snoopyalien24 · 11-23-2011, 12:22 AM

Why don't they do like they did with the mustang? Fill the tires with nitrogen. And instead of having a spare tire, u get a nitrogen tank compressor. I think it has enough to fill 2 tires? Idk, and doesn't weigh too much.

Neutral_Eyes · 11-23-2011, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RegisBou

I'm not being "stupid". I would rather have a safe jack while improving distribution then taking out everything and being f'd when a flat tire ruins my day.

Who's to say that'd actually improve distribution? You? Do you think they engineered such a low center of gravity then just got lazy with the weight distribution, or decided to leave it to customers? C'mon now.

Dave-ROR · 11-23-2011, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neutral_Eyes

Who's to say that'd actually improve distribution? You? Do you think they engineered such a low center of gravity then just got lazy with the weight distribution, or decided to leave it to customers? C'mon now.

Also adding weight past the axle changes the polar moment of initeria nicely.

No one will make stock size rotors with aluminum hats I wouldn't think, and biggers ones would weight slightly less but need a bigger bracket and bigger caliper, which may or may not be lighter depending on construction, size, etc.

Also 53/47 doesn't mean understeer by itself, there's a lot of different things you can do to change how a car handles, making it heavier by adding weight to certain areas is certainly one of them, but you tend to only to that low to the ground and in the center of the car to fix corner weighting in race cars, for a street car.. seriously?

Natural: this is really for the other guy... not you :P

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