FR-S/BRZ vs. Genesis Coupe

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Dark

It depends on how you see. It's not true that veyron is faster than a brick like car if you build a brick like car with more net force.

name a component of this nef force you keep bringing up that will be affected by the shape of the car but not the size or power that is not the drag coeffecient and please explain to me where you are coming from because as far as im concerned if two cars have the same power delivery, frontal area and same weight the one that has the smaller cd will be faster

[Deslock]

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

Doesn't stop it from being a capable performer.

True, but FWD is still soul sucking.

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

Dragonitti I bet you money if you spent 2k in a GC vs the Tc you would see the meaning of this car. 2k gets you 70-80 whp- 80-100 wtq. In a tc that's probably about 20-25 whp-10-15 wtq. For 2013 the GC will not have 210 hp anymore so we shall see which car is the better deal then.

It's worth noting that the wheel torque gains are much higher than that (how much varies depending on which gear you're in).

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

And another thing 300wtq on FWD is epic fail.

300 lbf*ft wtq would be an epic fail with any car.

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

I would fall asleep in your NA while driving that torqueless car. The GC might not be sharp around a corner as your NA but I find it fun to drive in comparison to your car.

We all have our priorities. I find bloated pigs (like the GC, Mustang, and G37) disconnected and mind numbing.

[aliphian]

Originally Posted by Deslock

300 lbf*ft wtq would be an epic fail with any car.

WTF?

[serialk11r]

Originally Posted by aliphian

WTF?

yup, at the wheels, 300lb-ft would barely get the car going :P

But seriously, "torque to weight" is easily the one of the most laughable things I have seen on the internet.

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by Deslock

True, but FWD is still soul sucking.


It's worth noting that the wheel torque gains are much higher than that (how much varies depending on which gear you're in).


300 lbf*ft wtq would be an epic fail with any car.


We all have our priorities. I find bloated pigs (like the GC, Mustang, and G37) disconnected and mind numbing.

I know this. You're just being so damn technical about it.:happy0180:

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by serialk11r

yup, at the wheels, 300lb-ft would barely get the car going :P

But seriously, "torque to weight" is easily the one of the most laughable things I have seen on the internet.

But you guys should know what we mean when we say 300 wtq. We are talking dyno numbers not the multiplied amount which we all know is a lot more than 300 wtq depending on gearing in which the GC has good gearing.

[Ryephile]

If you want to be technically precise, you'll post a graph of "torque to the contact patches" versus speed. Going further, you would factor in vehicle weight and aero drag and calculate the acceleration g-force curve versus speed.

[Dragonitti]

Originally Posted by Deslock

True, but FWD is still soul sucking.

You speaking for yourself. I have come to look past drivetrain. A fast car is a fast car, I can care less which wheels drive it.

Originally Posted by Deslock

300 lbf*ft wtq would be an epic fail with any car.

I am already over the 300lbft wtq and plan to make another 100 or so.

Originally Posted by serialk11r

yup, at the wheels, 300lb-ft would barely get the car going :P

But seriously, "torque to weight" is easily the one of the most laughable things I have seen on the internet.

Depends on weight. 320wtq in my 2550lb curb weight gets me going pretty good.

[Dragonitti]

The whole Veloster front end is just fail to me.

[cassidy0998]

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

The whole Veloster front end is just fail to me.

I think it looks awesome.

[Dark]

Originally Posted by cassidy0998

I think it looks awesome.

To each of his own, I think it looks bad.

[Syldrin]

so i know i bailed on this thread a long time ago but am i really the only one that things hyundai is trying to bite on mercedes?

[Dark]

Originally Posted by syldrin

so i know i bailed on this thread a long time ago but am i really the only one that things hyundai is trying to bite on mercedes?

Hyundai is trying to copy most mainstream brands. Equus is like LS ripped off, Sonata has MB side profile. Only Gen Sedan looks more original.

[Syldrin]

thanks i no long feel crazy for thinking that.