GT 86 Hybrid. Would you?

[jflogerzi]

I think if done right it would work well. But the additional cost will not justify the price. Rather just go FI with my current FR-S

[Zaku]

well, there's also the thing where Hybrid models always look different than the normal ones,maybe it will look good. Lol if you like aesthetics more than function in a way .

[regnak]

Originally Posted by fatoni

do you have any info regarding the battery stuff strengthening the cars chassis in a way that isnt possible without them? seems strange to me.

It's not battery technology that stiffens the chassis, it's all about implementation of the battery. Toyota could use a battery as a very large (and stiff) strut.

[BlaineWasHere]

NO! BUT I would by a diesel FR-S!

[SC David]

If it adds more than 50hp/75ft.lbs AND they are somehow able to get an electric motor in there without disrupting the balance of the car AND if the whole system weighs less than 200 lbs AND we retain a manual transmission, I'm all in. HY-KERS FR-S ftw.

[tech4pdx]

No

I'll raise a brow when we've tapped into the "mythical" zero point energy field though.

[quasi86]

Originally Posted by shawnperolis

Hybrids are useless because they still use petrol. They are not the way of the future, they are gimmicky and just as bad for the environment as a normal car, if not worse.

That is not true at all. Hybrids are not a gimmick. This is a very uninformed ridiculous statement.

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[TylerLieberman]

I wouldn't for this car because of the type of car it is. The biggest problem with hybrid cars is they're all pretty ugly looking imo (with a few exceptions) and so much more expensive than similar petrol driven cars.

I am curious to see what happens with the next generation Evo. Hopefully it's not a let down. If it's actually good and the performance level is the same, I might seriously consider one down the road should gas prices start to get outrageous.

[cfusionpm]

Hybrids can be cool depending on how the energy is used. I know some road cars use braking energy as regenerative power. It's a technology used in Formula One for a while known as the KERS and last year Toyota debuted a Le Mans race car using just that technology. Before being taken out by an idiot GT driver, they kept pace with the decade-long winning Audi team, despite being the newcomer. Basically, it stores energy from your brakes that you can use at any time to give an electric boost in power. I'm not as familiar with applications for road use (maybe stop and go traffic at low speeds could use it with the engine off entirely?), but it has great use in sport and racing.

[hobojoker]

What about a hybrid cng with electric valving? Koenigsegg is working on that with a Saab

[quasi86]

The thought of putting in the racing hybrid system is very exciting. The new NSX will be made like this. Obviously Toyota will have their own system but a hybrid sports car is an awesome idea. The CRZ was pretty stupid but the FR-S is a legit sports car so no similarity beyond the marketing scheme.

They can make a hybrid without a CVT. CVT is just best for fuel economy that's why it's used in everyday hybrids like the Prius. Toyota and Audi both entered hybrid cars in the 24hr le-Mann. McLaren and Ferrari just put out hybrid sports cars.

I would absolutely consider getting this vehicle. Consider one great aspect of electric motors is they do not need to rev to produce torque, it's instant. And it isn't 75 lb/ft it's closer to 150 lb/ft! Not much horsepower though. 35 to 40hp. Imagine our FR-S with that. Also the battery would go behind the driver, and the electric motor could be integrated into the rear end! saying that because the highlander hybrid has one that powers rear wheels and one up front attached to the engine. The battery in the prius only weighs 67 lbs. don't think you would need anything any bigger. So it wouldn't necessarily add that much weight. Definitely not 200 lbs.

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[Soslow]

No I would not buy a hybrid anything, yet.

[quasi86]

They wouldn't have to change the look of the car guys. :what: the prius looks like that for aerodynamics, and cost quite frankly. The FR-S is only +0.02 drag than a prius. Does it look like a prius? And the engine shut off is not necessary either but a way to save gas. Don't think you guys are looking at this the right way. It's not a hybrid to save gas, it's a hybrid that adds allot of power without unreliable and (a dime a dozen) UN-innovative turbos and superchargers that would require many more upgrades to the engine and transmission.

And I bet you that the premium for this type of upgrade world be similar to the cost of adding a turbo or supercharger. Maybe less with mass production. Just saying.

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[smbrm]

Originally Posted by cfusionpm

Hybrids can be cool depending on how the energy is used. I know some road cars use braking energy as regenerative power. It's a technology used in Formula One for a while known as the KERS and last year Toyota debuted a Le Mans race car using just that technology. Before being taken out by an idiot GT driver, they kept pace with the decade-long winning Audi team, despite being the newcomer. Basically, it stores energy from your brakes that you can use at any time to give an electric boost in power. I'm not as familiar with applications for road use (maybe stop and go traffic at low speeds could use it with the engine off entirely?), but it has great use in sport and racing.

Yes, but I think they may consider capacitors for energy storage rather than batteries.

Whether we like it or not electricity will be necessary to get to future fuel economy standards whether it is recovered, stored or generated with fuel cells! Demonstrating the use electricity to help power a performance car has to be an ideal way to make the future happen. If it isn't a good idea then why are almost every manufacturer pursuing research in this area. If personal fun transportation is to have a sustainable future then you have to be willing to consider new ideas and technologies.