MRT claims in Australia.

[Fizz]

Originally Posted by DriftEightSix

I like how the price isn't mentioned once on there website.

Their website is horrible!

[industrial]

Originally Posted by Turdinator

I am not going to search through his numerous large threads to find it but i believe @Visconti said the same thing.

EDIT: Except for the reliability BS

He did say the same exact thing, I remember I asked him to clarify and the thread just died because that would probably compromise some of his business partnerships. Both guys (John and MRT) are probably drinking from the same bowl of ecutek koolaid. It really looks like the more engineered header designs from nameless and P&L are debunking this theory. There still needs to be a bit more testing though.

[invisage]

MRT are off in their own little world and ecutek really need to get a second master tuner sorted in Australia to bring in some much needed local competition. $1500 for an NA tune is just redicolously over priced.

[Hook]

Originally Posted by Fizz

Mind sharing with us which place was this? Is it the one in Malaga? I doubt that price includes cable, but I think it does include dyno time if I'm not mistaken. Still expensive tho. Tune + license + cable + delivery = approx $900 from US vendors. With stg1 tunes on mild mods like intake & exhaust only I don't think you'd really need the dyno since vendor can do adjustments via logs anyway so not too bad.

Yep, that's the one. My mate gets his Evo tuned and worked on there. He said they were very good and he only ever uses the best for everything. Though he can afford to, me not so much lol

[DriftEightSix]

Originally Posted by invisage

MRT are off in their own little world and ecutek really need to get a second master tuner sorted in Australia to bring in some much needed local competition. $1500 for an NA tune is just redicolously over priced.

Funny that you say that.

Subject: Price Gouging
Emailed to ECUTek.com(Owners)

Hi,

I would like to write to you to complain about the Price gouging going on with your one and only Australian reseller (MRT).

I have compared their price of your product to other companies around the world and they are a good $600-$800 more expensive then anywhere else!

Why is this so!?

What can be done about this?

Would I be able to approach other companies outside of Australia to order my ecutek products?

Reply from them

Hi Steve

MRT is our distributor of our products in Australia.
We have long term established relationship where MRT will sell, support and promote our products in Australia.
MRT provide support and training for a sub dealer network inside Australia, all EcuTeK tuners spend a lot of time on development, testing and training using our products exclusively.
This is different to the rest of the world and the pricing reflects that.
If you feel your pricing is too high then contact Brett Middleton to negotiate a better price, Brett is a business man and does not want unhappy customers and is also keen to secure new customers.

The Australian product and service provided should not be compared other cut throat markets like the USA where everything is driven and decided on cost alone.
EcuTeK is a tool that our dealers use to develop tuning calibrations, the price reflects the effort that’s made.
Like most things in life you get what you pay for, service and support are as important as the purchase and sale itself.

I copied Brett on our reply so you can discuss this further.

Best regards

I've asked Brett for a full list of these "Extra" features us Australian's get for the extra $800... await their reply.

[invisage]

Originally Posted by DriftEightSix

Funny that you say that.



Reply from them


I've asked Brett for a full list of these "Extra" features us Australian's get for the extra $800... await their reply.

Outstanding. I was thinking about doing the same thing.

[invisage]

Originally Posted by Hook

Yep, that's the one. My mate gets his Evo tuned and worked on there. He said they were very good and he only ever uses the best for everything. Though he can afford to, me not so much lol

Its not their fault when they are having to get the license off MRT for $500. Thats already a $200+ markup right there. But I will aslo have to say a few guys will be paying extra initially for them to learn our car :/

[Fizz]

I know that a few aussies have already purchased their ecutek tunes through the US vendors, but will these vendors get in any trouble for selling to us?

Another things is, if our license was purchased through the US vendors, would any of the local ecutek tuners be "allowed" to (dyno) tune our cars in future if were to add other mods?

[JiB]

i see no reason why you would need 2 licenses... unless tuner is greedy

[86drift]

Originally Posted by Fizz

I know that a few aussies have already purchased their ecutek tunes through the US vendors, but will these vendors get in any trouble for selling to us?

Another things is, if our license was purchased through the US vendors, would any of the local ecutek tuners be "allowed" to (dyno) tune our cars in future if were to add other mods?

Licence is not the problem.
It's the tune that's locked and can't be modified.

[JP]

so.. the question has to be asked... Is it ECUtek or MRT gouging the Australian market?

Does ECUtek provide MRT with the same cost price as they do to the US tuners?

I recall reading a thread on here somewhere about an internal email from ecutek to the US dealers about price reduction to allow them to be competitive with the tuners using open source tools... Maybe that wasn't offered to MRT? I guess that's a question that will definately not be answered as it would give away their margin position.

I wouldn't expect Aus to pay the same as US customers if there was pricing parity to the distributors, as we'd have the additional GST on top of the base price. just like the extra 10% we pay on the AVO kit in Aus compared to the USA (unless you buy the same kit from MRT and have their $3.something thousand dollar "Install & tune" markup)

[sierra]

Originally Posted by JP

I wouldn't expect Aus to pay the same as US customers if there was pricing parity to the distributors, as we'd have the additional GST on top of the base price. just like the extra 10% we pay on the AVO kit in Aus compared to the USA (unless you buy the same kit from MRT and have their $3.something thousand dollar "Install & tune" markup)

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[Fizz]

Originally Posted by 86drift

Licence is not the problem.
It's the tune that's locked and can't be modified.

No I don't think so. I thought its only locked to the vehicle, and as long as you own the licence the tune can be updated or retuned as many times as u like on that vehicle.

If you're saying the tune is locked and can't be modified, does it mean you're stuck with whatever tune u receive? So how is it possible that people can send logs to the vendors to get their tunes updated?

[86drift]

Originally Posted by Fizz

No I don't think so. I thought its only locked to the vehicle, and as long as you own the licence the tune can be updated or retuned as many times as u like on that vehicle.

If you're saying the tune is locked and can't be modified, does it mean you're stuck with whatever tune u receive? So how is it possible that people can send logs to the vendors to get their tunes updated?

Only the vendor that sent you the original tune can send you an updated one.
That is unless you're AVO and give access to your tunes to trusted tuning shops.

So, if I were to say have MRT do a tune on my car and I need it modified (due to an intake or exhaust mod), the only way to have this done is take it back to MRT.

It's not too bad unless the relationship with the particular tuner goes sour or charges more than you'd like for an update, then you're stuck with a tune with isn't correct and have no easy/cheap way to update it.