Track / AutoX Suspension. Suggestions?

[GC_Adam]

Originally Posted by Gopherboy6956

Man... and here i was thinking i'd get a bunch of "Suspension X IS DA BOMB" answers.

Lots of good thoughts.

Well, part of my quest for suspension as a starting point is i HATE wheel gap. I know i will have 235/40/17's, i know they will be Dunlop ZII's. I probably track twice a summer, and autox 5 or so times.

So, i guess I'd just like to start somewhere with coilovers and work things out from there.

Check out this link if you haven't already;
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26890
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...06&postcount=7

-Adam

[Gopherboy6956]

I guess one thing that turned me on to KW V3 was this thread - seems like the norm for these AutoX guys...

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30303

[GTM_Challenge]

Interesting link. When I called KW last week, they said the normal V3s have 230 front/285 rear springs, while the Clubsports have 340/400 springs.

[ayau]

Originally Posted by Gopherboy6956

I guess one thing that turned me on to KW V3 was this thread - seems like the norm for these AutoX guys...

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30303

KW V3 was one of the first "nice" set of coilovers for the ft86 platform, and I think that's why you see a lot of guys running it. The market is still catching up with the demand. There should be a lot more options near the end of 2013.

For a budget build, I'd probably go for Koni Yellow with Eibach ERS springs.

[GC_Adam]

Originally Posted by Gopherboy6956

I guess one thing that turned me on to KW V3 was this thread - seems like the norm for these AutoX guys...

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30303

Thats a good write up, but keep this in mind;

KW gives you what ever they want of the shelf.
GC will tailor the system to you, what you want and what will make you competitive.

If you have any concerns or technical questions all you have to do is email/call us and you get to talk to a live person with an answer almost immediately.
Try that with KW.

Our complete system which about the same price as the KW V3 includes camberplates, stress bar (sharper steering), and rear shock mounts.

Don't get me wrong KW has decent products but they are a bigger that can flood the market with their product hence the reason why you see more activity about them.

I found another link in regards to a STX client of mine that I still stay in touch with.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...06&postcount=7

[Gopherboy6956]

Originally Posted by ayau

KW V3 was one of the first "nice" set of coilovers for the ft86 platform, and I think that's why you see a lot of guys running it. The market is still catching up with the demand. There should be a lot more options near the end of 2013.

For a budget build, I'd probably go for Koni Yellow with Eibach ERS springs.

What's it like to assemble those DIY? do you need anything special do to it? I've only ever installed ready to go coilovers.

Thanks,

[GC_Adam]

Originally Posted by Gopherboy6956

What's it like to assemble those DIY? do you need anything special do to it? I've only ever installed ready to go coilovers.

Thanks,

A little time consuming and a little messy, but not difficult at all.

[blkwrxwag]

My advice is to get an Eibach Pro kit for a couple hundred bucks, get an alignment, 8" or 9" rims and 245/40/17 tires (235 is too short), and go have fun for a while. That setup will win most local STX events if you have the driving talent.

That gives you more time to assess the coilover options as they mature, whilst still having a competitive setup.

Now, if you're planning on winning Nationals this year, go get some coilovers pronto.

Edit : you'll need the Strano front bar as well. It will help tame the rear end.

[Gopherboy6956]

Nationals, in my first RWD car ever. Lol.

[OjiGeorge]

I'd suggest doing some more research on the Tarmac II's. I've heard nothing but great things about them across platforms. They are a tad above your $1500 budget but not by that much.

[blkwrxwag]

Originally Posted by Gopherboy6956

Nationals, in my first RWD car ever. Lol.

Hey, you have to start somewhere.

Back in 2006, I went to Nationals just for the experience. I fully expected to get my ass kicked, but ended up winning the STU Pro Solo National Championship.

You never know

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by GTM_Challenge

Interesting link. When I called KW last week, they said the normal V3s have 230 front/285 rear springs, while the Clubsports have 340/400 springs.

Whoever you spoke to at KW was not properly informed. They are 340/400 for the off the shelf V3s.

For our RCE Tarmac 2's, we use 400/400 as the default rates, but allow customization firmer and softer depending on the user's needs.

Most good suspension shops will allow you to customize your coilovers and make recommendations on what will work for you. Some will have different ideas of what works.

I would stress again that using your budget completely on coilovers and then running stock bushings is not recommended. They really do make a solid difference. I would prefer a Koni + RCE Yellow spring set-up with some key bushings and maybe swaybars every time over 1500 in coilovers. Staging your build in phases is a common way to go and often a good idea depending on the user.

- Andrew

[GTM_Challenge]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Whoever you spoke to at KW was not properly informed. They are 340/400 for the off the shelf V3s.

For our RCE Tarmac 2's, we use 400/400 as the default rates, but allow customization firmer and softer depending on the user's needs.

Most good suspension shops will allow you to customize your coilovers and make recommendations on what will work for you. Some will have different ideas of what works.

I would stress again that using your budget completely on coilovers and then running stock bushings is not recommended. They really do make a solid difference. I would prefer a Koni + RCE Yellow spring set-up with some key bushings and maybe swaybars every time over 1500 in coilovers. Staging your build in phases is a common way to go and often a good idea depending on the user.

- Andrew

Thanks for clearing that up. Any chance you know what the OTS Clubsport rates are?

[GC_Adam]

Originally Posted by blkwrxwag

I don't think the GC Stess bar is legal for for STX. Much like the MX5 in STR, you cannot replace a triangulated strut brace with a two point brace, or even add an additional brace.

As long as I read the rules correctly, our stress bar is legal for STX for the FRS/BRZ chassis.

http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/...lo%20Rules.pdf
"G. Strut bars per Section 12 are permitted with all types of suspension,
subject to the following constraints:
1. a 2-point strut bar may be added, removed, modified, or substituted,
but only with another 2-point strut bar.
2. A triangulated (3-point) strut bar may be removed, modified, or
substituted; substitution may be with either a triangulated or a
2-point strut bar. The connection to the chassis (i.e., firewall, bulkhead,
etc) must be in the standard location."

Please correct me if I misread/misunderstood the above information.