First time clay bar user... wow!

[chandz05]

Originally Posted by was385

^what he said. If I'm applying wax by hand, I normally do each panel and by the time everything is done, the first panel I did is hazed over and ready to be buffed. With the random orbital I finish everything and let it sit for a while before buffing.

Yeah, that's what I did, but the wax seems to be getting more difficult to buff. Or is that just me getting more tired? ha. Either way, once it's off, it looks gorgeous

[was385]

Originally Posted by chandz05

Yeah, that's what I did, but the wax seems to be getting more difficult to buff. Or is that just me getting more tired? ha. Either way, once it's off, it looks gorgeous

What's the temp. like? If it's cold out, it can definitely make it harder to buff off. Just be thorough, take your time and yes, there's nothing quite like a freshly waxed car.

[tuckdaddy]

Originally Posted by dem00n

Done.

Don't need spray wax, save your money!

Spray wax and Detail Spray are totally different things. I also wouldn't use soap like that guy as it could be too much of a lubricant and hinder the purpose of using clay. Yeah you'll get crap out of the clear coat but you'll also leave stuff in it. On top of that your just swirling the crap out of the paint since you've then loosened it up with the soap and mit to just rub it bak in with the clay since your too lazy to wash the vehicle down. It's counterproductive and doing more damage than good.

[chandz05]

Originally Posted by was385

What's the temp. like? If it's cold out, it can definitely make it harder to buff off. Just be thorough, take your time and yes, there's nothing quite like a freshly waxed car.

Yep it's pretty cold outside. Was in the mid 40s the whole day. at least the rain held. Would putting too much wax also make it harder to buff out? I think I either may have used too much, or didn't spread it out as much as I should have.

[was385]

Originally Posted by chandz05

Yep it's pretty cold outside. Was in the mid 40s the whole day. at least the rain held. Would putting too much wax also make it harder to buff out? I think I either may have used too much, or didn't spread it out as much as I should have.

Yeah, I think the temp was your problem. Too much wax also would make it little harder You only really need enough to coat everything, but you'll figure out how much to do the more you do it.

[dem00n]

Originally Posted by tuckdaddy

Spray wax and Detail Spray are totally different things. I also wouldn't use soap like that guy as it could be too much of a lubricant and hinder the purpose of using clay. Yeah you'll get crap out of the clear coat but you'll also leave stuff in it. On top of that your just swirling the crap out of the paint since you've then loosened it up with the soap and mit to just rub it bak in with the clay since your too lazy to wash the vehicle down. It's counterproductive and doing more damage than good.

Why wouldn't you wash down your car after clay baring?

He is the guy detaling million dollar Ferrari's, i take his word over any of yours.

[was385]

Originally Posted by dem00n

Why wouldn't you wash down your car after clay baring?

He is the guy detaling million dollar Ferrari's, i take his word over any of yours.

I'm not going to take a side in the soap discussion, but just because they are paid to detail expensive cars, doesn't necessarily mean they know what they're doing. Ex: http://www.monkeysee.com/play/1571-c...iling-exterior

[dem00n]

Originally Posted by was385

I'm not going to take a side in the soap discussion, but just because they are paid to detail expensive cars, doesn't necessarily mean they know what they're doing. Ex: http://www.monkeysee.com/play/1571-c...iling-exterior

Thats the same argument with any professional, why should we trust Opti coat?

Why should we trust any detailer??

Why should you trust your barber?

Why should you trust your lover?

[was385]

Originally Posted by dem00n

Thats the same argument with any professional, why should we trust Opti coat?

Why should we trust any detailer??

Why should you trust your barber?

Why should you trust your lover?

You are going off on a weird tangent here. Again, I'm not going to tell you to do anything one way or the other, but you're on here telling people they're waisting their money on spray detailer because of a youtube video and I'm sure it would take me ten seconds on google to find a bunch of how-to posts by pro detailers saying to use spray detailer. You're kind of acting like what this guy is talking about is dogma. No need to be so defensive about it.

[dem00n]

Originally Posted by was385

You are going off on a weird tangent here. Again, I'm not going to tell you to do anything one way or the other, but you're on here telling people they're waisting their money on spray detailer because of a youtube video and I'm sure it would take me ten seconds on google to find a bunch of how-to posts by pro detailers saying to use spray detailer. You're kind of acting like what this guy is talking about is dogma. No need to be so defensive about it.

I'm not being defensive about it, i'm just stating information.

I trust that detailer more then others because i find his methods to work better than others, he also doesn't tell you to buy his stuff only, but to experiment with other brands and so forth.

Hes more, economical without being sacrificial in a sense.

He does say you can use spray wax or clay bar spray or whatever you guys call it now, but you can get pretty much the same results with just using soap and water you would use to wash your cars. Assuming its good soap per say, i wouldn't use dish detergent.

[chandz05]

Well thanks for all the advice and suggestions guys! Car is finally buffed out. One last question: is there any way to soften the wax if it gets too hard? Buffing that crap out was a workout ha.

[russv]

Originally Posted by dem00n

Thats the same argument with any professional, why should we trust Opti coat?

Why should we trust any detailer??

Why should you trust your barber?

Why should you trust your lover?

What? You don't use 409 and wash with doors, trunk lid, and hood open? Shame!

[was385]

Originally Posted by chandz05

Well thanks for all the advice and suggestions guys! Car is finally buffed out. One last question: is there any way to soften the wax if it gets too hard? Buffing that crap out was a workout ha.

I've been told spray wax can help loosen it, but I've never tried it. Just try applying a thinner layer next time (you really only need to coat it) and it should be fine.

[was385]

Originally Posted by russv

What? You don't use 409 and wash with doors, trunk lid, and hood open? Shame!

There are a couple of scary things about that. How has this man been able to sustain a business for a couple of decades with that complete lack of detailing knowledge? How many peoples' cars has he screwed up over the years? And finally, who in their right mind lent him a Bentley?