Gas Stations without Ethanol

[norsamerican]

Hey guys I found a link i think you all will like. It shows by state then by city all of the gas station locations that contain gas without ethanol and also lists the octanes carried. This is specifically helpful if you're trying to find that elusive 92-93 octane gas.

Im not sure on the accuracy, seems that most of it is user submitted so its worth a try to check out at least.

Enjoy

http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=TX

[Myv]

+1

But, it's user submitted so there could be inaccuracy, ie. Petro in Ontario Canada, they all contain ethanol now. But yea YMMV Still a good place to check, if you click into the details link, there are user submitted comments (the one for Petro in Ontario Canada, users submitted notes about Petro all contain ethanol).

[Zgrinch]

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12536

[King Tut]

I wouldn't worry about running E10 or even the soon to be E15 in a modern engine. The fuel systems can handle it. I would worry about it in pre 2000 model cars where the fuel systems were not setup to handle the corrosiveness of ethanol. I run 91 octane ethanol free in my 1987 BMW SpecE30 for that reason.

[Xdragonxb0i]

Okay so I heard e85. Is. Equivalent to race gas, but 93 with 10% ethanol is. Worst the pure 93. Wouldn't the ethanol. Raise the octane, but at the cost of slightly. Less fuel economy

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by Xdragonxb0i

Okay so I heard e85. Is. Equivalent to race gas, but 93 with 10% ethanol is. Worst the pure 93. Wouldn't the ethanol. Raise the octane, but at the cost of slightly. Less fuel economy

I'm not sure about it being the equivalent of race gas, but it's definitely a higher octane equivalent than pump gas. You are correct in your assumption that it does get less fuel economy than pump (estimates range from 15-30% less).

[reeves]

Alot of those places are "unbranded" & of questionable quality. I went to 2 on a road trip once that looked really run-down and shady.

I did manange to find one that was decent-looking.. but still a mom & pop type place. Filled up twice there, once on the way & once coming back home. Eh, it really didn't do anything noticeable to me.

I'd rather just fill up with E10 from a reputable/branded station. All this is moot of course once I get an E85 tune!

[dsgerbc]

For states where reputable stations do not carry E0 gas, that link is junk.
About 99% of those stations will be boat stations, with some 89 octane with lots of octane booster several times beyond EPA-legal automotive fuel limits. While some you might not care about EPA-limits, at least your catalytic converter and cylinder walls will care about deposits those additives leave. And if you blow your engine, Subaru will find those deposits and deny you warranty coverage.

Basically, if the station is near a lake - don't waste your time. If a station is in the middle of nowhere - check if there's a road racing circuit nearby. If so - the station is legit.

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by King Tut

I wouldn't worry about running E10 or even the soon to be E15 in a modern engine. The fuel systems can handle it. I would worry about it in pre 2000 model cars where the fuel systems were not setup to handle the corrosiveness of ethanol. I run 91 octane ethanol free in my 1987 BMW SpecE30 for that reason.

Anything made in the last 20 years should be fine. Ethanol has been used since before the early 90's when they banned MTBE. It's just the last 10 years that it became mandated. Granted there are exceptions. When it was introduced in the 70's it mucked up carbs, rubber, and leaned out the air to fuel ratio.

Now, sometimes crap just fails or the protective coating wears off. But unless you have pure gas local the only other option is to upgrade parts as they fail. If it phase separates, it gets water in it, it can really make a mess, I believe there are stabilizers but I've never tried them myself.

Originally Posted by xjohnx

I'm not sure about it being the equivalent of race gas, but it's definitely a higher octane equivalent than pump gas. You are correct in your assumption that it does get less fuel economy than pump (estimates range from 15-30% less).

It's not as good as C16 but it's definitely better than 93 octane. Tested octane for E50-E85 is about 95-96 aki octane. I've seen some crazy builds for E85.

MPG varies. I know Ethanol works even better with DI so there's that.