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Mercury · 02-19-2013, 06:41 PM

carbonBLUE · 02-19-2013, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SnapOv3st3r

It's also rolling on full blown slicks.

still beat a ferrari 458.... NA 4 banger in a 25k car beating a v8 exotic making 562 hp... still impressive...

Superhatch · 02-19-2013, 07:19 PM

Yes.

RRnold · 02-19-2013, 07:24 PM

SICK!

SnapOv3st3r · 02-20-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

still beat a ferrari 458.... NA 4 banger in a 25k car beating a v8 exotic making 562 hp... still impressive...

Oh not saying that.

Horsepower is only part of the equation.

Superhatch · 02-20-2013, 11:53 AM

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TRD then took the GT 86 Griffon out to the Tsukuba circuit and laid rubber to tarmac, netting a best lap time of 1:01.872.

That may seem like nothing on paper, but when you start adding in the fact that time beats out times of the Ferrari 458 Italia, Ferrari 360 CS, Nissan GT-R Spec-V, Corvette ZR1, Lambo Gallardo, Porsche 911 GT2, and so on, you realize that this must be one beastly `Yota GT 86.

Full race tires are a hell of a drug. I know that many of those cars have -really- aggressive summer tires on them, but there is still a big difference between a DOT max performance summer tire and a slick racing tire.

I'd be much more interested in what the car would do on a max performance summer tire.

That said, still impressed.

SnapOv3st3r · 02-20-2013, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Superhatch

Full race tires are a hell of a drug. I know that many of those cars have -really- aggressive summer tires on them, but there is still a big difference between a DOT max performance summer tire and a slick racing tire.

I'd be much more interested in what the car would do on a max performance summer tire.

That said, still impressed.

That's what I was getting at with my comments. Tires go a LONG way compared to an increase in HP. So, just because a Ferrari is putting up 5xxhp numbers, if it's on street tires vs a lower hp car and super light....Full Racing Slicks can bridge the HP gap.

SnapOv3st3r · 02-20-2013, 01:22 PM

And should you come up to a situation of a Modded lower class car vs. a Stock higher class one, a majority of the time, the Modded lower class car will be faster.

carbonBLUE · 02-20-2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SnapOv3st3r

That's what I was getting at with my comments. Tires go a LONG way compared to an increase in HP. So, just because a Ferrari is putting up 5xxhp numbers, if it's on street tires vs a lower hp car and super light....Full Racing Slicks can bridge the HP gap.

HKS put down a time of 1:07 all they had was exhaust, rims, max performance street tires, stripped the car's weight down. But still missing a smaller final drive, headers (good headers go a long way on our cars). Also they didn't do lap after lap chasing the best time

MTCRX · 02-20-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

HKS put down a time of 1:07 all they had was exhaust, rims, max performance street tires, stripped the car's weight down. But still missing a smaller final drive, headers (good headers go a long way on our cars). Also they didn't do lap after lap chasing the best time

That's great, let's all try to find the twist that minimizes the accomplishments. Wouldn't want to support or hear of anyone's successes. The car made some great runs with minimal improvements. The car was on a race track so it makes sense to use racing slicks. And besides, because racecar! This is a good accomplishment and yes other cars will be faster, etc. but take this for what it is. These people are finding out what it takes to make these car faster and handle better, and minimal change is the route to go. I for one am taking notes. Nice Job Griffin/TRD.

SnapOv3st3r · 02-20-2013, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

HKS put down a time of 1:07 all they had was exhaust, rims, max performance street tires, stripped the car's weight down. But still missing a smaller final drive, headers (good headers go a long way on our cars). Also they didn't do lap after lap chasing the best time

6sec slower is a HUGE time in racing. HKS had more HP to boot. Hence HP is a small part of what makes fast lap times. They ran more than one lap for that 1:07.

SnapOv3st3r · 02-20-2013, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MTCRX

That's great, let's all try to find the twist that minimizes the accomplishments. Wouldn't want to support or hear of anyone's successes. The car made some great runs with minimal improvements. The car was on a race track so it makes sense to use racing slicks. And besides, because racecar! This is a good accomplishment and yes other cars will be faster, etc. but take this for what it is. These people are finding out what it takes to make these car faster and handle better, and minimal change is the route to go. I for one am taking notes. Nice Job Griffin/TRD.

Stitch welded chassis is not minimal, but everything else I would say so.

MTCRX · 02-20-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SnapOv3st3r

Stitch welded chassis is not minimal, but everything else I would say so.

Agreed!

jonbatz01 · 02-20-2013, 07:25 PM

When are they coming out with this bumper!!

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