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Old 11-07-2011, 05:08 PM   #99
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I'd take the dimensions with a grain of salt, they're from the BRZ Prologue concept, which was from Geneva.
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Old 11-07-2011, 05:21 PM   #100
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Sti version at LA autoshow and production version none sti at tokyo right?
STI concept model at LA show, regular BRZ production model at Tokyo. No one knows yet if the STI concept model will also be shown at Tokyo.
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Old 11-07-2011, 05:23 PM   #101
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Arguably the best looking car in Subaru's lineup, by far. I was on the fence about the new impreza until they added the wider fenders but the BRZ is looking SHARP!
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Old 11-07-2011, 05:32 PM   #102
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I kind of like the front air dam on the BRZ more than what's on the FR-S. Really diggin' the LED headlights.
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Old 11-07-2011, 05:36 PM   #103
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Again, the tires are 215/45/17 as stated by BOTH manufacturers (on paper and in first drives). It's not the tires or the wheels.
Yeah, same dimensions but are both manufactures going to use the same exact tire brand? That might be the difference even though both are 45 series, on might have a deeper thead depth adding that extra .6".


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no i dont care, i was just saying sarcastically "oh noes .6 in"
I know, that's why I included you in the quote b/c would a .6" make a significant difference to most of us!? Probably not!

Watch, I bet we'll see threads about .6 mpg difference between Chevron and Shell gasoline!
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I'm not sure what Toyota was thinking....

Now...
The Subaru version is not only... a little bit better performance wise, it is also smaller and BETTER looking front and rear.


Toyota just lost about 25% potential sales, who will no doubt fork the extra $4000-$5000 to get a more "mature" and "prestige" looking version.


Unless the Toyota comes out with a turbo, many people who waited and current owners of 350z/370z/Genesis etc who are looking for a newer car will opt for the Subaru version.... Looks Audi-ish with Mazda touch.... which is GOOD.

The delinquent looking rear tail lights of the Toyota only really appeals to the really young, like 18-21 year olds.... they need to offer a "red" cover tail lights off the factory.... many people do not want to mod their rear lamps within the first year or 2 due to warranty purposes.....
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Old 11-07-2011, 05:42 PM   #105
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I'm not sure what Toyota was thinking....

Now...
The Subaru version is not only... a little bit better performance wise, it is also smaller and BETTER looking front and rear.


Toyota just lost about 25% potential sales, who will no doubt fork the extra $4000-$5000 to get a more "mature" and "prestige" looking version.


Unless the Toyota comes out with a turbo, many people who waited and current owners of 350z/370z/Genesis etc who are looking for a newer car will opt for the Subaru version.... Looks Audi-ish with Mazda touch.... which is GOOD.

The delinquent looking rear tail lights of the Toyota only really appeals to the really young, like 18-21 year olds.... they need to offer a "red" cover tail lights off the factory.... many people do not want to mod their rear lamps within the first year or 2 due to warranty purposes.....
Not gonna happen with not-so-friendly CR ratio of the engine.
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Old 11-07-2011, 05:43 PM   #106
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Hmmm, i think many of us are going to buy replica/used BRZ Front Bumpers and stick em on our Scions!
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grill looks a lot like the new genesis coupe



I think it looks a lot better on the BRZ though, can't wait to learn more. Please let this be the cheap one!
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Not gonna happen with not-so-friendly CR ratio of the engine.
I'm thinking subaru uses their FB series 1.6L turbo engine for a FI model. It would keep it off the heels of their impreza wrx/sti models, but enough power to please the rest of us.
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This front end + STI concept taillights + lil more power and torque = Me driving one off the lot...lol.

Honestly though i will put these things side by side and see which i like best, then make my choice
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I'm not sure what Toyota was thinking....

Now...
The Subaru version is not only... a little bit better performance wise, it is also smaller and BETTER looking front and rear.
For the record I still prefer the Toyota's front end, and depending whether the BRZ will go with the test mule's rear (which looks identical to the FT-86's) or the BRZ STi Concept's rear (which I prefer), I think the FT-86 may still be the better looking of the two to me. And the BRZ is not any smaller than the FT-86; they're identical. The smaller dimensions quoted in the first post of the thread are of the BRZ Prologue Concept.
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[QUOTE=AIRMAX;73123]I'm not sure what Toyota was thinking....
Toyota just lost about 25% potential sales, who will no doubt fork the extra $4000-$5000 to get a more "mature" and "prestige" looking version[QUOTE]

I will most likely fit into the BRZ catagory as it sits today with leaked photo's and specs...... !! ...:-/
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I'm not sure what Toyota was thinking....
Toyota just lost about 25% potential sales, who will no doubt fork the extra $4000-$5000 to get a more "mature" and "prestige" looking version
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I will most likely fit into the BRZ catagory as it sits today with leaked photo's and specs...... !! ...:-/
First off WheelFast, I want your truck.

Second, as it stands right now it's less than $2000 difference.

The pallet available for Subaru vehicles are more mature and better(subjective) looking than the metallic candy colors and flat glosses Scion will have. Plasma Blue(would be my choice since I'm a fan of the old BRP) will be a hit along with Lightning Red and Satin White Pearl.

Colors choices can make or break a car sale.
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