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Old 02-06-2013, 02:32 PM   #155
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Typo on your BRZ total. I'm sure they haven't sold 46k.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:32 PM   #156
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Typo on your BRZ total. I'm sure they haven't sold 46k.
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A: First "full" year. So not calendar year but first 12 month period right?

B: Any data to suggest that production output vs demand had any effect on units sold in estimated 12 month period?

C: RX-8 (2003) did not go on sale with $4/gallon fuel and in the midst of a massive recession. Although 2003 wasn't exactly an economic boom year either.
A. Yes, first 12 month period (not CY).

B. Nothing in the data to indicate that, but anecdotally speaking, that's probably true for Subaru in particular in the initial months.

C. Yep, although the first full CY for the RX-8 was actually 2004. Your broader point holds true though -- those were the days of sub-$2.00/gal gas and a fairly optimistic market/economy.
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Old 02-06-2013, 04:10 PM   #158
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those were the days of sub-$2.00/gal gas and a fairly optimistic market/economy.
Memories. Sweet sweet memories.

Going back a bit further, when I was coming up we got fuel on Fridays because all grades were on sale for $0.75.
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Old 02-06-2013, 04:43 PM   #159
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Yeah but the RX8 gets 19 m.p.g. on a good day, I don't think gas prices are any influence when comparing the two (cheaper gas during RX8 production run balances out it's terrible fuel economy, expensive gas today balances our FRZ's good fuel economy). RX8 launched on the tails of the dot com crash, just like Subieyota is launching on the tails of the housing crash. The sales numbers should be very comparable and should be in the FRZ's favor because the auto industry is setting records for sales numbers.

I will be very surprised if the FRS/BRZ sells significantly more than the RX8 did, on paper (performance numbers, daily utility, official reviews) they're very similar, market conditions are similar, target demo is similar, price point is... comparable (RX8 was a bit more upmarket for the time, similar to 370Z now I believe).

Maybe I'm wrong and it will be as ubiquitous as the Mustang, but I'd bet on RX8-like production numbers throughout it's lifetime (and a similar lifespan).
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:12 PM   #160
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Looking forward to Feb figures.
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:19 PM   #161
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The FR-S/BRZ won't ever be as ubiquitous as the Mustang; Ford sells over 70k Mustangs a year.

The Gunma line can't support a higher level of production anyway, it's already running full tilt.
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I'm curious to see the sales figures for March...
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Subaru USA just released their March sales numbers;

905 BRZ's sold in March 2013

1788 BRZ's sold in calendar year 2013


Toyota USA sales;

1828 FR-S's sold in March 2013

4640 FR-S's sold in calendar year 2013

The BRZ's volume for March was almost 1/2 that of the FR-S.
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Old 04-03-2013, 01:09 PM   #165
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Damn...Looks like the FR-S is selling quite well. Quite well you say? Quite well meaning it outsold all of the other scion makes (xb, tc, etc). Moreover, the little iQ only sold 383 lolz. I hope they just ax Scion and make some new Toyolas.
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So sales are way up! Seems like they shipped a lot more cars to the dealers. Good news for our cars holding their values, though some of it must be seasonal.
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So sales are way up! Seems like they shipped a lot more cars to the dealers. Good news for our cars holding their values, though some of it must be seasonal.
More likely some cars accumulated at dealers due to slight slowdown of sales during the winter months and now its picking back up by selling the available ones on the lot. Curious to see how the sales trend during the summer and more and more people start knowing what the car is.

Hopefully it doesn't get too too popular
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They knew this would be a spring/summer seller! The next selling cycle will be important to understanding the interest level from the non early adopters.
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