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chuy21 · 02-06-2013, 06:17 AM

Boss 302 Mustang GT Camaro 1LE all handle extremely well. Why do people keep saying muscle cars. Can't handle.

Opposed · 02-06-2013, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by chuy21

Boss 302 Mustang GT Camaro 1LE all handle extremely well. Why do people keep saying muscle cars. Can't handle.

Maybe a lot of import fan-boy's are ignorant? IDK, maybe people confuse good handling (grip, fat sticky tire muscle cars) with light, agile reflexes (FRS/BRZ)

MissDeb · 02-06-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by raul

The TRD supercharger should be made available in March.....

Do you really think that?

It has been 9 months and Toyota/Scion has yet to release foglights for the FRS in the US.

sol740 · 02-06-2013, 10:49 AM

Whatever, I'm happy. If they release an official upgrade package, I'll be the first in line, but until then, no power-adders till the warranty is done.

FR_Soldier_77 · 02-06-2013, 11:48 AM

Let's be very clear here. Does a corvette count as a muscle car? Yet it carries a V8. But can a mustang or camaro actually compete against it? I'm going to have to say no on that. You can do whatever you like to a mustang or camaro but it will never handle like a corvette. With that being said so you think that if the fr-s had the same power specs of say the gt mustang, do you think the mustang could keep up? Heck would you pit your mustang against a porsche? Muscle cars are great at what they do and excel at it, go fast in a straight line, just like a supra does. Do not assume I am some rice boy who knows nothing about cars and how they function. Hell don't even call me a rice boy. The characteristics of these cars are different from day to night. I've lived long enough to appreciate the different disciplines of car types.

DanoFA20 · 02-06-2013, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by YangerD

That's too bad then, I'd be nice if they put out a turbo for the BRZ to spice things up a little.

then this car would no longer be in the catagory of affordable gas efficient sports car. turbo would have to be at least 5000$ more

DanoFA20 · 02-06-2013, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by FR_Soldier_77

Let's be very clear here. Does a corvette count as a muscle car? Yet it carries a V8. But can a mustang or camaro actually compete against it? I'm going to have to say no on that. You can do whatever you like to a mustang or camaro but it will never handle like a corvette. With that being said so you think that if the fr-s had the same power specs of say the gt mustang, do you think the mustang could keep up? Heck would you pit your mustang against a porsche? Muscle cars are great at what they do and excel at it, go fast in a straight line, just like a supra does. Do not assume I am some rice boy who knows nothing about cars and how they function. Hell don't even call me a rice boy. The characteristics of these cars are different from day to night. I've lived long enough to appreciate the different disciplines of car types.

actually the new stangs handle as good as M3s which is saying a lot

FR_Soldier_77 · 02-06-2013, 12:28 PM

Notice I did not compare to a BMW, but your right that is saying a lot. But still a BMW nor a mustang have characteristics similar to a vette or Porsche.

Sport-Tech · 02-06-2013, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by zigzagz94

The only thing GT-86 related being announced for Geneva that we currently know about is the convertible.

Fixed that for you.

raul · 02-06-2013, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MissDeb

Do you really think that?

It has been 9 months and Toyota/Scion has yet to release foglights for the FRS in the US.

They HAVE to make it available for consumers if they want to use it for the Pirelli World Challenge. It's either that or they withdraw from the PWC.

CarsComEditor · 02-06-2013, 05:58 PM

I was at the Subaru Forester first drive event a few weeks back in Tucson and the first question journalists asked when they said the XT had a BRZ engine was if the turbo would be coming in the BRZ. The simplest explanation of the "NO WAY" was that the turbocharger was mounted towards the bottom of the engine and the BRZ is too low to the ground. It just wouldn't fit.

The XT was really quick on the open road but I didn't think it did much on the track. Of course it was a tight track and I was driving a small crossover, not a sport coupe

Speedy000 · 02-06-2013, 06:08 PM

even with a small turbo it wont be fast people will never be happy. i love the car the way it is.

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02-06-2013, 06:17 AM	#29
chuy21 Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Drives: 2009 Cobalt SS 373 FWHP 431 Lb-Ft Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 62 Thanks: 17 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Boss 302 Mustang GT Camaro 1LE all handle extremely well. Why do people keep saying muscle cars. Can't handle.

02-06-2013, 10:49 AM	#32
sol740 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Under a bridge Posts: 49 Thanks: 11 Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Whatever, I'm happy. If they release an official upgrade package, I'll be the first in line, but until then, no power-adders till the warranty is done.

02-06-2013, 11:48 AM	#33
FR_Soldier_77 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Drives: 2013 SCION FR-S, 2001 S2000 Location: Georgia Posts: 90 Thanks: 6 Thanked 21 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Let's be very clear here. Does a corvette count as a muscle car? Yet it carries a V8. But can a mustang or camaro actually compete against it? I'm going to have to say no on that. You can do whatever you like to a mustang or camaro but it will never handle like a corvette. With that being said so you think that if the fr-s had the same power specs of say the gt mustang, do you think the mustang could keep up? Heck would you pit your mustang against a porsche? Muscle cars are great at what they do and excel at it, go fast in a straight line, just like a supra does. Do not assume I am some rice boy who knows nothing about cars and how they function. Hell don't even call me a rice boy. The characteristics of these cars are different from day to night. I've lived long enough to appreciate the different disciplines of car types.

02-06-2013, 12:28 PM	#36
FR_Soldier_77 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Drives: 2013 SCION FR-S, 2001 S2000 Location: Georgia Posts: 90 Thanks: 6 Thanked 21 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Notice I did not compare to a BMW, but your right that is saying a lot. But still a BMW nor a mustang have characteristics similar to a vette or Porsche.

02-06-2013, 05:58 PM	#39
CarsComEditor Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I was at the Subaru Forester first drive event a few weeks back in Tucson and the first question journalists asked when they said the XT had a BRZ engine was if the turbo would be coming in the BRZ. The simplest explanation of the "NO WAY" was that the turbocharger was mounted towards the bottom of the engine and the BRZ is too low to the ground. It just wouldn't fit. The XT was really quick on the open road but I didn't think it did much on the track. Of course it was a tight track and I was driving a small crossover, not a sport coupe

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