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Old 10-31-2011, 02:50 PM   #197
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the "customize grade" bare bones model is 1190 kg
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bare in mind the customize grade does not have AC or ANY audio speakers. curiously, it DOES have keyless remote entry.
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Old 10-31-2011, 02:54 PM   #199
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I leave for a couple days and I can't even catch up on all this news! This is some great news though, although much is confirmed of what we already thought. I hope the high-spec will be available through Scion, or at least a base where I can add alot of the high-spec options to it so I can build the car I want. It looks like a good week for us guys! Let's hope USDM specs in terms of options will be similar.
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They don't mention differance in brake? The low spec have the same front caliper as the high one ?

Anyway in US I bet the high spec model will be the only one available.
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Old 10-31-2011, 02:55 PM   #201
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bare in mind the customize grade does not have AC or ANY audio speakers.
perfect, just listen to the nice throaty sound of the boxer motor with no cats resonators or mufflers... just a sweet sounding glass pack(s)
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They don't mention differance in brake? The low spec have the same front caliper as the high one ?

Anyway in US I bet the high spec model will be the only one available.
I can't read Japanese but so far no one here who can has pointed out sizing, caliper specs, etc. Lots of us would LOVE to know them though!!
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I think I just came in my pants... wait lemme check... yep just did.
Bare bones at 1190 isn't as large of a difference from the base at 1210 as I was expecting. But I guess that is a great starting point.
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Customizable grade is for the hardcore set out there. And it looks like it will be the cheapest of em all.
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Old 10-31-2011, 02:59 PM   #205
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Decisions, decisions... I am wondering if Scion will just come out with one model (that has more than the JDM base) and then have most of the stuff as options.

Of course they will have the bottom model, too, with nothing on it.
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Old 10-31-2011, 02:59 PM   #206
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LOL what do you know. When I didn't know bout the specs I did some fun photoshopping (plus specs), I got pretty close (except convertible & turbo).

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Did lil bit more photochopping

Base model: SCION FR
  • $22k start
  • 175~200hp
  • 2650~2850lbs
  • 16" wheels
  • 2/1 pot calipers
  • 10" rotors
  • 6sp MT or AT
  • LSD (option)
  • Projector headlights
  • LED taillights



Convertible Level: SCION FR Convertible
  • $26k start
  • 175~200hp
  • 2750~2900lbs
  • 16" wheels
  • 2/1 pot calipers
  • 10" rotors
  • 6sp MT or AT
  • LSD (option)
  • Projector headlights
  • LED taillights



Sports Model: SCION FR-S
  • $25k start
  • 175~200hp
  • 2650~2780lbs
  • 17" wheels
  • 4/2 pot calipers
  • 13" rotors
  • 6sp Short Shifter MT or Paddle AT
  • LSD
  • HID headlights
  • LED taillights
  • Aluminum hood
  • Aluminum roof



Turbo Model: FR-T
  • $27k start
  • 210~245hp
  • 2700~2890lbs
  • 17" wheels
  • 4/2 pot calipers
  • 13" rotors
  • 6sp Short Shifter MT or Paddle AT
  • LSD (standard)
  • HID headlights
  • LED taillights
  • Aluminum hood
  • Aluminum roof


Ultimate Version: SCION FR GT TRD (Turbo)
  • $39.5k start
  • 280~310hp
  • 2450~2600lbs
  • TRD 18" wheels (14.2 lbs)
  • 6/4 pot calipers
  • 14" rotors
  • 6sp Short Shifter MT or Paddle AT
  • TRD 2-way LSD
  • HID headlights
  • LED taillights
  • Aluminum Roof
  • TRD Carbon Fiber Hood
  • TRD Carbon Fiber Spoiler
  • TRD Carbon Fiber Rear Diffuser
  • TRD Front Bumper
  • TRD 40mm Front / 50mm Rear Fenders
As for the pic...































I didn't have time to make one. You guys can dream how it looks LOL
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You need to maintain balance though otherwise big brake kits on the front only can actually decrease your braking performance.

I'm good with brake upgrades on all four corners but it takes a pretty piss poor brake design to actually need it, or a shitload more power on track, then you need bigger heatsinks (aka rotors) all around to handle the additional heat from braking at higher speeds.

Either way, for me, I'm sure the OEM brakes will suffice. I'll have to import the JDM ones if we don't get them though just to have them :P
I have contacts in Japanese auto industry as well as the source to fabricate brackets (if necessary). Maybe, groupbuy?

The car does not need the abovementioned calipers, but the modulation feel those calipers provide are so good! That's why I said "free money".

Even on a hefty 3,200 lb car with more than double the FR-S horsepower, those calipers provide sensational performance. Imagine how it would translate onto the FR-S. The brake bias problem shouldn't be that bad considering the compact size of those calipers, and a minor bias can be easily corrected by running softer pads or installing aftermarket brake-bias controllers.
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Bare bones at 1190 isn't as large of a difference from the base at 1210 as I was expecting. But I guess that is a great starting point.
Yea but every penny counts... the less mass to toss around the quicker you can corner... plus that is before the rest of the interior is... um... "modified" by me.... plus that what like 60 kg less that the primo model right? thats well over 100lbs
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Ridin' the roller coaster! A couple concerns, still. First, that's a really high RPM for the torque peak; how will this affect everyday driving? Second, in the US we'll be dealing with Scion, I have to think that odds are pretty slim we'd get the "Customize Spec" and/or some of the higher spec options like the Alcantara seats.

The weight definitely came out.. well, let's say decent. It's no NC or ND in that regard, but it's certainly better than the ~2800+ we were starting to see pop up.

So I'll ride the bandwagon a bit longer. Only thing now is: DO. NOT. FUCK. UP. THE. PRICING.
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Old 10-31-2011, 03:01 PM   #210
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I can't read Japanese but so far no one here who can has pointed out sizing, caliper specs, etc. Lots of us would LOVE to know them though!!
that's because none of that info is on the spec sheet. all it says concerning brakes is ベンチレーテッドディスク (ventilated disc) while the low spec model only says ディスク (disc) for the rear lol
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