Fish Tailing

[michaelahess]

Originally Posted by Grishbok

The rubber compounds used in summer tires are contructed to operate in a certain temperature range. When extreme cold hits, the compound condenses and drops beyond the point it was designed to, causing undue stress on the tire, most commonly making the tire very VERY hard and as a result, traction is compromised. In extreme cases, the tire can crack and even shatter.
It also goes to note that you can impair the integrity of the tire simply by driving the summer tire in winter due to the friction of the tire on the road. The friction causes the exterior of the tire to heat up faster than the rest and can again, excellerate wear, crack, or even drop chunks on the road.

Yeah, was referring to this:

you aren't even supposed to store your Michelin Primacy tires below 45F

That's the part that makes no sense. I know not to drive on them.

[michaelahess]

Originally Posted by NOHOME

The car is a RWD and despite all the noise to the contrary, has a fair bit of torque delivered to the rear wheels.

If you are not used to driving a (somewhat) powerful RWD car is low traction conditions, you are going to have a few tank slappers like your described. The stock tires are certainly going to make this a regular event.

Was driving around in a fresh snowfall this morning. Had a little fun with the nannies turned full "OFF" and then switched back for the commute. Even with the nannies set to full "ON" this car manages to shake its tail. The "Sport" mode allows some pretty good slip angles before it steps in and unless I wanted to be focused the whole time I am driving, I would not bother.

It would be educational to drive a Mustang in similar snow conditions to see how it behaves.

Hehe, even with winter tires, my Mustang is too much fun in the snow!

[michaelahess]

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Originally Posted by JSUB

Great info. Appreciate it. Any recommendations for an All Season tire for my Wife's 2003 Celica GTS? Costco tire salesman convinced me the BF Goodrich was a good match for her car. I had a different brand and tire in mind. Her car handles like a truck. Huge roll resistance. Costco agreed to take them back especially after I mentioned the Tech said they mounted the front tires backward. Costco is a great company. No questions asked. Good philosophy. A medium priced tire that handles well and good in rain, decent in snow....

Goodyear triple treads rocked in my '01 Celi, not sure if they sell them still. They were even good in snow, but not ice.