Modifications Advice... Help?

[Ahernandez0909]

Hey guys I'm just asking for some quick help. I am new to any third market car mods. I used to drive a 2003 BMW 325i (Father's car). I now got a job and decided to buy my own car. I loved the FRS so I bought it the same day I saw it. I love the car and I want to make it faster and "nicer" haha I am on a budget from hell due to the new car purchase, but I am interested in a Cold Air Intake, as I've heard those are good beginning modifications. I wouldn't mind a little deeper/louder growl from my engine and some horespower and torque boosts. I found a very affordable one and wanted to know if anybody knew about this particular maker/part. Thanks for the help guys! Sorry for the "nooby" question

http://www.redline360.com/injen-cold...ion-frs-SP1230

[Visconti]

Best bang for your buck is a flash. IMO Intakes and or exhaust systems haven't been proven to make power.

If you want more sound I would check out a simple catback system - Perrin, P&L, Nameless, or Accelerated Performance.

Hope that helps

Here's a pic of the P&L vs stock

[dsmx17]

Originally Posted by Visconti

Best bang for your buck is a flash. IMO Intakes and or exhaust systems haven't been proven to make power.

Did business slow down?

[Visconti]

^ ha ha, lucky for me no. Just about the busiest I've ever been

-John

[Ahernandez0909]

Thanks a lot man~ Being a "noob" I still don't understand that too much. I heard that intakes and exhausts are the best beginning modifications to make to a car. The one I linked supposedly adds a bit more whp and a bit more torque. I'm not really looking for sound compared to performance but a nice deeper growl wouldn't be terrible. Wow that thing looks a lot nicer lol.

[WatchmaN]

I have to admit that a tune is the best bang for the buck, but I don't undestand why John say's that exhaust are proven not to make power cause we have on here many dyno prover results on those. I also made my own dyno proven and yes the make power.

[Visconti]

Originally Posted by WatchmaN

I have to admit that a tune is the best bang for the buck, but I don't undestand why John say's that exhaust are proven not to make power cause we have on here many dyno prover results on those. I also made my own dyno proven and yes the make power.

I've done several tests which indicate they don't, with or without the flash.

[industrial]

Originally Posted by Visconti

I've done several tests which indicate they don't, with or without the flash.

That flys in the face of every exhaust fabricator. Hell nameless said their exhaust picked up something like 20 whp. You say it's 0. Oh and you sell flashes so no conflict of interest here.

Basically you are saying Perrin, nameless, Jdl, supersprint, etc all are lying. Is this you being sarcastic again or something?

[FR-S Matt]

I think he's probably talking about just catbacks alone, or axlebacks. Nameless full system with the header produced 22 whp on a dyno that Tainen did. Full exhaust systems go for $1k+ which doesn't include a header. A flash will cost you $850 and you get a license, cable, and updated tunes.

Tunes are the best bang for the buck, but if you ask me, get a tune when you have intake, headers, and exhaust, and you'll really see how awesome a tune is. The e85 tune is pretty awesome, but I don't know what the long term effects are of e85 on this engine. That's my only concern with it.

[Visconti]

Originally Posted by industrial

That flys in the face of every exhaust fabricator. Hell nameless said their exhaust picked up something like 20 whp. You say it's 0. Oh and you sell flashes so no conflict of interest here.

Basically you are saying Perrin, nameless, Jdl, supersprint, etc all are lying. Is this you being sarcastic again or something?

People claim a lot of this forum .. Tunes that are suppose to make power but Dyno less then stock on the Dyno...

I've seen zero gains with several exhaust systems..

I've also spoke to a few guys making headers and their Dyno tests all showed the same thing.

I've yet to see anything truly impressive that falls outside the margin of error.

If I'm wrong show me

[ultra]

I'll second Visconti on the tune. Best bang for the buck mod, period.

Other that that, good tires.

Chucking out the trunk junk is also free and will save you a nice few pounds. Combining that with a lightweight battery to take some weight off the front isn't very expensive either.

After that, springs/coilovers and geometry correction bushings so you don't end up running a gank alignment that ruins your handling.

When it comes to other stuff like exhausts, wheels etc. I always look for stuff that has a some kind of weight savings angle to it if possible, so you get an additional benefit on top of better cosmetics, sound, whatever.

[WatchmaN]

Originally Posted by Visconti

I've done several tests which indicate they don't, with or without the flash.

So we've been lied too by Dsport also?
http://dsportmag.com/browse/tech/sci...haust-showcase

[mhigham]

I would also say tune would be best bang for the buck and likely the most gain period. Intakes are making nothing and exhaust very little, especially without a tune to support it.

[ATL BRZ]

Originally Posted by Ahernandez0909

Hey guys I'm just asking for some quick help. I am new to any third market car mods. I used to drive a 2003 BMW 325i (Father's car). I now got a job and decided to buy my own car. I loved the FRS so I bought it the same day I saw it. I love the car and I want to make it faster and "nicer" haha I am on a budget from hell due to the new car purchase, but I am interested in a Cold Air Intake, as I've heard those are good beginning modifications. I wouldn't mind a little deeper/louder growl from my engine and some horespower and torque boosts. I found a very affordable one and wanted to know if anybody knew about this particular maker/part. Thanks for the help guys! Sorry for the "nooby" question

http://www.redline360.com/injen-cold...ion-frs-SP1230

If you want to ride in my BRZ at an upcoming local meet, you can see for yourself the difference that a true CAI makes.

I would get a true CAI versus a short-ram intake like the Injen you linked to because the Injen's open faced design sucks in a lot of hot air that rises up off the headers and radiator and gets trapped under the hood. This effect has been measured by others here using the intake air temp data given via OBDII interfaces. Just think about how that's amplified sitting in Atlanta traffic mid-summer. Having the filter away from all that hot air and behind the bumper cover results in significantly (6 degrees F) lower intake air temps.

The gains from a CAI are only about 4-5whp and 2-3 ft/lbs on a stock tune, but the throttle response and sound are greatly improved, as well as making much more room in the engine bay. The Vigilant CAI is only $270 shipped and I think it's a great deal, and same with the FA20Club CAI, really just comes down to how you want it finished. I preferred the flat black coating.