Nameless Performance Equal Length Stepped Header

[Fenrir]

Originally Posted by Jason@Nameless

The full dual catback exhaust? I will be working on pricing for it mid to late next week. Drop me an email at sales@namelessperformance.com and I'll ping you an update on pricing when I have it figured out. Same goes for anyone who wants to be on the update list for the header, just email me and I'll put you on the list.

Jason

Just sent an email to be added to the update list. Itching to get one of these.

I'm also tempted to order some of those free brake pads you guys have listed on your website...

[FR-S Matt]

Originally Posted by Jason@Nameless

We can weigh one vs. the other but they shouldn't be that big of a difference in weight. Change in routing was simply a manufacturability issue and we also found that we could make more power with a 3" midpipe and so we have two different designs that have options for 3" center sections, one in the configuration shown above with a standard 3" single midpipe, the other is a wild 3" to full dual 2" setup with quad mufflers. It's substantially quiet, but picked up 6ft lb in the midrange over the full header-back layout that we had on our car. With so many people talking turbo, we wanted to give a few options for those individuals who would need higher flow. Lo and behold, it picks up more midrange on an N/A car as well, just a bit louder - so we laid out an option for adding two resonators to the system to pull that sound level down and landed on a design that is quieter than the standard header+OP/DP+Street Axleback. Second reason for laying out that system is that it packs up in a box that we can ship to Australia via USPS without incurring astronomical shipping charges.

I'll post a few photos of that full dual layout here in a few - gotta pull them off of an SD card that is hiding somewhere in my office.

Also, the layout shown above has more real estate for longer mufflers than our original design.

Jason

So you're saying I should wait on the Axleback package and go with this one? Very interested. If I went FI, it would be later on down the road, but this system sounds like a winner.

I originally intended on doing the Header + OP/DP/Axleback combo, but if this ends up working better, I'd rather go this route. I really do like loud, but it's gotta be a good, non raspy, ricey loud.

[Jason@Nameless]

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

So you're saying I should wait on the Axleback package and go with this one? Very interested. If I went FI, it would be later on down the road, but this system sounds like a winner.

I originally intended on doing the Header + OP/DP/Axleback combo, but if this ends up working better, I'd rather go this route. I really do like loud, but it's gotta be a good, non raspy, ricey loud.

Both the system shown above (the full dual circuit) and the new 3" axleback with 3" midpipe will work great on a forced induction setup. I'm also working on an aluminum 2.5" midpipe and a 3" midpipe that will hook to the standard axleback.

If you want quieter, the dual circuit shown above is the best bet - it's very tame, even with full header, and overpipe downpipe with high flow cat.

I'll try to get pricing worked out on that by the end of next week. I do have the prototype set that might have 80 miles on it here in the shop. For production, we just need to fixture the components up and get the mandrel bends figured out.

Jason

[FR-S Matt]

Originally Posted by Jason@Nameless

Both the system shown above (the full dual circuit) and the new 3" axleback with 3" midpipe will work great on a forced induction setup. I'm also working on an aluminum 2.5" midpipe and a 3" midpipe that will hook to the standard axleback.

If you want quieter, the dual circuit shown above is the best bet - it's very tame, even with full header, and overpipe downpipe with high flow cat.

I'll try to get pricing worked out on that by the end of next week. I do have the prototype set that might have 80 miles on it here in the shop. For production, we just need to fixture the components up and get the mandrel bends figured out.

Jason

Sounds great Jason! I think the 3" midpipe to 3" axleback will be a better longterm solution for me. I'd like to keep the system on for good. Loudness I can handle, (as long as the midpipe stays resonated) and with a Hemholtz, I think it will be a great combination when I add the header. Luckily where I live, I think it's not possible to get pulled over for loudness.

[Fenrir]

So, since I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out exactly what the change was, what's this updated offset on the axelback that everyone is talking about? I have the original design that I purchased back in July 2012. Does this new version offer better power over the original?

[FR-S Matt]

Originally Posted by Fenrir

So, since I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out exactly what the change was, what's this updated offset on the axelback that everyone is talking about? I have the original design that I purchased back in July 2012. Does this new version offer better power over the original?

The inlet to the axleback is now 3" from what I have seen change wise which breaks off into a 2.5". The rest of the axleback remains the same if I'm not mistaken.

Looks like it is to transition to an FI system with a larger midpipe rather than the stock one.

[Fenrir]

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

The inlet to the axleback is now 3" from what I have seen change wise which breaks off into a 2.5". The rest of the axleback remains the same if I'm not mistaken.

Looks like it is to transition to an FI system with a larger midpipe rather than the stock one.

Interesting. Any info on why this was changed?

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by Fenrir

Interesting. Any info on why this was changed?

See below:

Originally Posted by Jason@Nameless

We can weigh one vs. the other but they shouldn't be that big of a difference in weight. Change in routing was simply a manufacturability issue and we also found that we could make more power with a 3" midpipe and so we have two different designs that have options for 3" center sections, one in the configuration shown above with a standard 3" single midpipe, the other is a wild 3" to full dual 2" setup with quad mufflers. It's substantially quiet, but picked up 6ft lb in the midrange over the full header-back layout that we had on our car. With so many people talking turbo, we wanted to give a few options for those individuals who would need higher flow. Lo and behold, it picks up more midrange on an N/A car as well, just a bit louder - so we laid out an option for adding two resonators to the system to pull that sound level down and landed on a design that is quieter than the standard header+OP/DP+Street Axleback. Second reason for laying out that system is that it packs up in a box that we can ship to Australia via USPS without incurring astronomical shipping charges.

I'll post a few photos of that full dual layout here in a few - gotta pull them off of an SD card that is hiding somewhere in my office.

Also, the layout shown above has more real estate for longer mufflers than our original design.

Jason

Seems like early adopters got screwed, sorta

[DGMBRZ]

I purchased the axleback with high flow cat from you guys months ago. I'm interested on your catted header. Do you know if it gets louder inside the cabin? And any info on if you guys are going to make a cold air intake? Thanks!


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[Jason@Nameless]

Also, this 'change' of sorts is one that _allows_ us to run a 3" primary circuit - we will still be offering the 2.5" primary circuit as well. In terms of performance benefit, we still need to test using a 3" midpipe on a factory vehicle.

Our testing of the full dual exhaust (pictured in the thread above) resulted in about 6ft lb of torque in the midrange gained over the standard axleback or track pipe. We still need to test a single 3" midpipe circuit and the 3" to dual 2" axleback to see if we get similar gains. Just as a note - our main reason to build the dual circuit system from the middle of the car back was simply to box it up in a smaller package so that we could ship to our friends down under in Australia. The other unknown at this point is whether a 3" midpipe on our 2.5" to dual 1.75" axleback (or our single 2.5" track pipe for that matter) would generate similar midrange gains - it very well may. We will be testing that also.

Jason

[Jason@Nameless]

Originally Posted by DGMBRZ

I purchased the axleback with high flow cat from you guys months ago. I'm interested on your catted header. Do you know if it gets louder inside the cabin? And any info on if you guys are going to make a cold air intake? Thanks!

Yeah it gets louder with the catted header - not by an astronomical amount. And yes, we are planning on developing a cold air intake.

Jason

[DGMBRZ]

Originally Posted by Jason@Nameless

Yeah it gets louder with the catted header - not by an astronomical amount. And yes, we are planning on developing a cold air intake.

Jason

Ok thanks! I shall wait for you guys then! I want all Nameless parts!


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[Fenrir]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

See below:



Seems like early adopters got screwed, sorta

Ah ok, I had read that post but wasn't sure if that was the axelback he was referring to. Thanks for the clarification!

Should offer a trade-up program for us early adopters!

[DGMBRZ]

I couldn't wait. I had to get it. Lol Trade sounds good. Or we can sell it and purchase again.


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