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01-11-2013, 03:51 AM | #29 |
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If the BOSS is out of your price range, I would second the motion for waiting for the price of a C6Z to drop a little. Worst case scenario, the '13 and '15 GTs will still be an option.
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01-11-2013, 04:40 AM | #30 |
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The BOSS is like the frs of the muscle cars, once you drive it, you understand that nothing else in its category comes near it. Its the biproduct of what happens when the gt-40 pit crew gets a hold of a gt500, and works their unholy magic overnight. You end up with a slayer.
The BOSS is so good in fact, rules were changed as a result. The 370z should be dismissed immediately, Nissan doesnt even know if their going to put a bigger or smaller engine in it yet, so i wouldnt hold my breath for anything short of unimpressive. I won't go with a corvette, leafsprings and disagreeable styling. The engine is pretty nice, but still leaves a lot to be desired in response. If you are considering a mustang, wait and buy a used BOSS, or save up and buy a BOSS, but if you buy anything else, youll only be reminded that you should have got the BOSS.
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Never drove a BOSS, but hope to one day. The styling is a bit too loud for me anyways.
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01-11-2013, 01:20 PM | #32 |
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Maybe it's because of my age (old fart) but I adhere to the theory: So many cars, so little time. I'm against waiting for any thing. If you're worried about what the Mustang "might" be in the future, what's the problem. Buy one now and if, in the future they exceed your expectations, trade your pony in for a new one!
People can find all kinds of excuses to wait for what the future might hold and all they're doing is depriving themselves of pleasures they could be enjoying today. |
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01-11-2013, 01:24 PM | #33 |
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I really like the 370z....
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01-12-2013, 08:27 AM | #34 |
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If your into mustangs I would wait for the 2015. That model is going to be a complete re-design because it is going to be offered as a global platform. It will also be the first to come from the factory with an independent rear suspension.
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There is NOTHING wrong with the leafsprings on a modern Corvette, and a fair amount that's RIGHT (lightweight, mounted low, don't occupy much space) about them.
That the springs are composite blades instead of helically-wound wire doesn't detract from double-wishbones front/rear. Quote:
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01-12-2013, 09:07 PM | #36 |
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I'd wait for the next generation, 2015 Mustang GT. That's what I'm planning on doing. IRS, smaller, lighter, what's not to love? I had thought about trading in my '08 GT for a 2011 or 2012 5.0 GT, but mine is paid for and while the newer ones are nice, they aren't nice enough to want another car payment right now. Unless Ford really screws up the next Mustang in some way, I plan to get one in a couple of years, possibly trading in my current Mustang, or just keeping my '08 and getting a new one. Heck if it is good enough (much lighter and smaller than the current one) I may even get rid of the BRZ and Mustang for a new one. Torque is a wonderful thing.
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^ I think it's a carbon fiber leaf spring. That's kinda cool.
@ZDan also keep in mind when you're throwing around words like 'oversize/overweight' that the Mustang's natural competition is the Camaro. The fact that the Boss is being compared to the Vette speaks to how well accomplished it is. The next gen lighter Mustang with IRS (finally, and not some last-minute mod that had to fit chassis pick-up points from a solid axle like the SVT Cobras) may be a vehicle that will pull me over to domestics.
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Rumors of the next 370 and g replacement(q50) are of a vq30dvt, direct injected turbo with roughly 400hp. If they are true and they can get it down closer to 3k pounds its going to be a beast.
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But the Corvettes were WAY faster than the Boss Mustangs *before* they were restricted. Quote:
Quick search shows the boss does have a slightly quicker steering box, 16:1 vs. the Corvette's 17:1. But weighing a good 300 lb more, on a longer wheelbase, and with 55% of its weight on its front tires, the Boss isn't going to turn in as well as a Corvette. Quote:
In the real world, the Mustang is 14" longer, 6"(!) higher, and 400 lb. heavier than the Corvette. The enormous Mustang looks the box that a Corvette might come in. Quote:
All the springs do is provide restoring force. Pounds per inch. Composite leafs do this every bit as well as helically wound wire, while weighing less and taking up less space. Quote:
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Weird that you see Boss disadvantages as advantages, and advantages as disadvantages. Quote:
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I think they're fiberglass, but still they are pretty cool. 1/3 the weight of two coil springs.
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Still, HUGELY overweight Camaros that are slower in a straight line have been outrunning Mustangs in track comparisons (Ford for some dumb reason provided one of the mags with a GT to compare against a 1LE Camaro, no contest there). As much as I am a HUGE fan of lighter weight and HATE overweight cars, Camaro vs. Mustang at the track pretty much proves that better suspension and better weight distribution can overcome a 200+ lb. weight disadvantage. The much-slower-in-a-straight-line ZL1 KILLED the GT500 in Car and Driver's Lightning Lap at VIR, by more than 3 seconds. That's telling. The way way WAY slower-in-a-straight-line 1LE Camaro was less than a second slower than the GT500. Unfortunately they didn't test a Boss or GT Mustang this year. Quote:
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