Have you hit 200whp NA?

[Illusive]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

Does your dyno read high? 177 stock and 190 tuned are definitely on the upper end of what I've seen.

Our dyno reads quite accurately. I wouldn't consider it high compared to any other dynojet.

We have been charting our FR-S as we put miles on it. We have several dyno's at 250 miles (165 hp) , 2500 miles (170 hp) , 8500 miles (176-177 hp), and 10,000 miles (177-tuned 190).

What we found is that the car has picked up about 12 horsepower from break-in.

Our dyno sheet's are posted in our dyno thread:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7319

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by Illusive

Our dyno reads quite accurately. I wouldn't consider it high compared to any other dynojet.

We have been charting our FR-S as we put miles on it. We have several dyno's at 250 miles (165 hp) , 2500 miles (170 hp) , 8500 miles (176-177 hp), and 10,000 miles (177-tuned 190).

What we found is that the car has picked up about 12 horsepower from break-in.

Our dyno sheet's are posted in our dyno thread:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7319

Thanks. Those are really impressive hp gains from just the passage of miles/time. Would be great if all our cars picked up 12whp over time

[ultra]

Simmons jdzumwalt GTB/ZR-1

Of course a higher redline would be useful in order to be able to shave time on certain AutoX or road courses, especially (primarily?) if you're competing for trophies (real or imaginary).

The point I intended to make was that in this context of this thread (seeking power) there doesn't seem to be any benefit in raising the rev limit beyond stock from a pure power perspective. Perhaps I should have been more concise.

In our case upping it to 8500 seems safe (Accelerated Performance are running 8.5k on their turbo motor AFAIK) which gives you an extra 1000 rpms to play with. Hugely beneficial on some AutoX courses (particularly the 1st-2nd gear 'specials' I'm used to) and possibly on some road courses. Don't think I'd want to spin it up to 8k+ rpms on a road course for a prolonged period though.

[Boosted2.0]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

Thanks. Those are really impressive hp gains from just the passage of miles/time. Would be great if all our cars picked up 12whp over time

I suspect that most of them do. As the engine and drivetrain break in and loosen up that is probably a fairly standard scenario. Most people don't dyno stock cars repeatedly like that, but you can see the trend if you watch fuel economy over time. Fuel economy generally improves quite noticeably on any new car from the first couple tanks till about 10K-15K

[Boosted2.0]

Originally Posted by 2forme

ya.... I'm on an 11.6" 1080p screen lol. Shoulda zoomed in. Good to see GT5 is right about oil changes

LOL! We are very thorough in our tuning process and the car saw over 100 passes on the dyno - it is adviseable to ensure the integrity of the lubricant prior to that kind of a beating. We try to make sure we are always on fresh oil when we tune a car.

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by Boosted2.0

I suspect that most of them do. As the engine and drivetrain break in and loosen up that is probably a fairly standard scenario. Most people don't dyno stock cars repeatedly like that, but you can see the trend if you watch fuel economy over time. Fuel economy generally improves quite noticeably on any new car from the first couple tanks till about 10K-15K

so boosted, intake manifold is it in development? i think we need it to hit 200whp na 93 oct... just saying ive got a check waiting to be written to you because i was really happy with the 2zz-ge intake manifold both on my celica and my friend's exige

[2forme]

I'm wondering if I can hit 200whp on I/H/E/Tune on 93. I'm already at 189-190 with I/E....

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by 2forme

I'm wondering if I can hit 200whp on I/H/E/Tune on 93. I'm already at 189-190 with I/E....

What's your PERCENTAGE delta hp from stock baseline (if you have an untuned stock baseline)? Mainly because I don't want to go looking for your dyno plots.

[Boosted2.0]

Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

so boosted, intake manifold is it in development? i think we need it to hit 200whp na 93 oct... just saying ive got a check waiting to be written to you because i was really happy with the 2zz-ge intake manifold both on my celica and my friend's exige

Yes and no. I have a design in mind, but we still have to do the flow workups on the head and stock manifold before I can start on a practical course of design.

That said, I do have a brand new FA20 head at the shop so I can do the flow workups, I just need to make time for it.

We have a couple big projects and engine builds going right now so we have to get that knocked out first.

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by Boosted2.0

Yes and no. I have a design in mind, but we still have to do the flow workups on the head and stock manifold before I can start on a practical course of design.

That said, I do have a brand new FA20 head at the shop so I can do the flow workups, I just need to make time for it.

We have a couple big projects and engine builds going right now so we have to get that knocked out first.

awesome im sure some of the old celica owners that own 86's now, that saw your gains with the celica are patiently waiting for a product

just wanted to hear that it was planned sometime in the future

[l0aded]

How important is an aftermarket pulley like Perrin's? Are the gains tangible?

Also maybe a silly question but how do you reset your ECU? Do you need to have the tuning kit to do this? I just got an Injen initake and am wondering if reseting the ECU help the car adapt to the increased air flow.

[Opposed]

Originally Posted by l0aded

How important is an aftermarket pulley like Perrin's? Are the gains tangible?

Also maybe a silly question but how do you reset your ECU? Do you need to have the tuning kit to do this? I just got an Injen initake and am wondering if reseting the ECU help the car adapt to the increased air flow.

Pulley is more of a "feel" mod (quicker throttle response) You wont really see big gains show up on a dyno. Resetting your ECU can be done by disconnecting your neg. battery cable for about 5-10 min, that's it. There are lots of opinions on resetting your ECU with an intake, I have done it, but to be honest, I have not noticed a difference. Your ECU will re learn it either way. I usually go for a long drive (about 20-40 miles) and the car seems to adjust just fine within that time.

[2forme]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

What's your PERCENTAGE delta hp from stock baseline (if you have an untuned stock baseline)? Mainly because I don't want to go looking for your dyno plots.

I never dynoed completely stock. The closest I had was with an SRT headerback exhaust. That was 177.

[industrial]

Originally Posted by 2forme

I'm wondering if I can hit 200whp on I/H/E/Tune on 93. I'm already at 189-190 with I/E....

Might want to add that 5whp oil too. Which headers are you thinking?

I hope to get close in the spring when I install everything and get tuned. I'm going with a works air filter, avo inlet, borla uel headers and nameless exhaust. Oh and that super oil haha.