FR-S vs BRZ

[WiKKiD]

So if the frs is better why are 60% of there owners changing the emblems to Toyota?

[Accurate Race Shop]

Originally Posted by WiKKiD

So if the frs is better why are 60% of there owners changing the emblems to Toyota?

I work with two brz owners that did the same thing. Many people feel because the car was designed by Toyota it is a Toyota no matter what badge they bought it with. It is another personal preference thing I'm fine with it being a scion and put it in big bold letters on the side.

Edit: also the brz is the lesser model in most countries that sell the gt86 with no touch screen radio or some of the other features. I have also heard something about them being tuned down some places to make less hp not sure how true that is or if it is being compared to the trd version. People in the USA want the gt86 so they buy the extras install them and change the badge all personal preference.

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[jshadeck]

Originally Posted by WiKKiD

So if the frs is better why are 60% of there owners changing the emblems to Toyota?

Where in the world did this 60% fact come from?

[WiKKiD]

Originally Posted by jshadeck

Where in the world did this 60% fact come from?

Just testing the waters!

[rice_classic]

Originally Posted by WiKKiD

So if the frs is better why are 60% of there owners changing the emblems to Toyota?

67.3% of all statistics were made up.

[jshadeck]

Originally Posted by jasper

I work with two brz owners that did the same thing. Many people feel because the car was designed by Toyota it is a Toyota no matter what badge they bought it with. It is another personal preference thing I'm fine with it being a scion and put it in big bold letters on the side.

Edit: also the brz is the lesser model in most countries that sell the gt86 with no touch screen radio or some of the other features. I have also heard something about them being tuned down some places to make less hp not sure how true that is or if it is being compared to the trd version. People in the USA want the gt86 so they buy the extras install them and change the badge all personal preference.

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If im not mistaken, the japan toyota has 3 less hp, probably some legal technicality, i know the supra/skyline etc were all rated at lower hp in japan too

[Accurate Race Shop]

Originally Posted by jshadeck

If im not mistaken, the japan toyota has 3 less hp, probably some legal technicality, i know the supra/skyline etc were all rated at lower hp in japan too

I heard one of them was tuned down I thought it was in the UK but I wasn't sure which one and where or if they where comparing it to a model with trd options on it. And yeah probably some emissions issue I know Japan is very strict on what they allow on the road kinda like California

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[jshadeck]

Yea. But i mean 3hp? I bet theres that much difference between two "identical" frs or brzs in the states from the factory, no?

[Accurate Race Shop]

Originally Posted by jshadeck

Yea. But i mean 3hp? I bet theres that much difference between two "identical" frs or brzs in the states from the factory, no?

Oh yeah and I highly doubt anyone ever got in it not knowing and said man feels like it's about 3 HP less. That little bit would not even be noticeable

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[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by sho220

I don't care for leather seats. Don't care for HID's either. Don't need fog lights. Or keyless entry and start. Have never cared for factory nav systems. Don't need heated seats. Don't even know what the hell bluetooth is. Auto temp? Don't need it. 3 grand saved. It still seems to escape the BRZ owners that some people just don't care about all that shit...

Then again, I think it has more to do with the badge than anything else.

don't care about any of the "lux" items, but HIDs? That's a safety item to me. I like seeing where the f*ck I'm going. If you don't care for HIDs, it's cuz you've never owned a car with them.

And I'm not talking about a $40 ebay kit. I'm talking a factory HID setup.

[jshadeck]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

don't care about any of the "lux" items, but HIDs? That's a safety item to me. I like seeing where the f*ck I'm going. If you don't care for HIDs, it's cuz you've never owned a car with them.

And I'm not talking about a $40 ebay kit. I'm talking a factory HID setup.

JUST a side note/opinion

I bought a PnP hid kit off one of the vendors on here, and in the frs stock projector housings, they seem to my naked eyes to be just as good if not a little better than the factory HIDs on my previous lexus

[rhoyle]

Originally Posted by jasper

Oh yeah and I highly doubt anyone ever got in it not knowing and said man feels like it's about 3 HP less. That little bit would not even be noticeable

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True, but then again, why are so many people so quick to throw any mod at their car that'll add 3HP?

[Accurate Race Shop]

Originally Posted by rhoyle

True, but then again, why are so many people so quick to throw any mod at their car that'll add 3HP?

Idk my exhaust the greddy sp elite was far from the best numbers for HP or torque but I like the way it sounds I think my injen intake still has the best but I just liked it so I got it not for the little tiny bit of power it might add. For me the car is fine for what I plan to do with it.

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[jshadeck]

In my experience, those are the same people that claim hp gains w no proof other than butt dyno... I did a muffler delete because i like to hear the car, and the stock tips looked way too small for the rear bumper in my opinion. I dont claim hp/mpg gains nor do i assume they are there. I do plan to add a 100hp with a NOS sticker in my window though, cant wait!