FR-S vs BRZ

[driftartist]

I was of course referring to the fuji heavy industries subaru plant in which both were manufactured. Not referring to the styling or technologies included by both ends but the physical construction of the cars. It was a joke. Its friday lets be merry. #flameretardantsuit

[gmookher]

I drove FRS again, and bought a 2nd BRZ, fwiw

[jshadeck]

Originally Posted by Jaylyons1

Because it's not really a Scion. Pop the hood. I see Toyota and Subaru. I like Toyota. I don't mind re-badged cars but there are just some brands I will not own.

Also, you obviously know nothing about the BRZ. Not sure where you got your $24 and 27k numbers(unless you are referring to the limited). The Scion does sell for about $24k but I paid about $25,500 for my BRZ. $1500 extra for navigation in itself is a decent deal, but you also get HID's and better suspension on top of a few other little odds and ends for what I want to do. It's not just cosmetic although the scion bumper is pretty awful.

Wow. Umm scion IS toyota, same as lexus is toyota, same as cadillac is chevy...
Better suspension??
And i think thats the first time ive heard anyone say the scions bumper is awful, actually its usually the other way around.

Cant we all just admit we all own the same car (minus a few options or lbs here or there) and get along?! Lol this is like aristo owners and gs300 owners bickering over which is better (and those cars are much more different than the brz/frs) jeez...

[jshadeck]

FWIW ive owned 2 subarus, 4 toyotas (one was a lexus) and a mazda, and now the frs... Im not "toyota only" by any means

[bdbx18]

I had a Supra, an MR2T but never a Subie. Used to be a Bimmer guy but now older and wiser, not a fanboy of any. That said, I think there are few Subaru dealers than Scion ones in SoCal so making a trip to one is a bit more hassle.

[driftartist]

the spring rates are slightly different between the frs and the brz for the mis informed

Originally Posted by jshadeck

Wow. Umm scion IS toyota, same as lexus is toyota, same as cadillac is chevy...
Better suspension??

[jshadeck]

Originally Posted by driftartist

the spring rates are slightly different between the frs and the brz for the mis informed

Haha... Yes ive heard they are slightly different, better? All the pro reviews ive heard say they are near identical on the street, and the frs suspension leads to a little more "fun" on the track... But i have not heard either was "better"

[jshadeck]

Searched myself... As i thought.. "Better" is an opinion

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16871

[driftartist]

I can only imagine he was stating his opinion on the brz being better in terms of equipment and i guess his spring preference as well. I guess it is a vs thread wherein he can freely define his thoughts on "better" you are encouraged to state you opinion but would suggest not to bash. Cool? Awesome

[driftartist]

I for one prefer the frs bumper and feel the brz on looks goofy in comparison but that is only one opinion

[jshadeck]

"Better suspension??" = bashing... Good to know

[Cameronghanson]

mines actually a porsche engine block with lambo injectors and prius tires and nissan leaf door rubbers with ferrari suspension and lexus mood lighting....idk what car you all are talking about.

[Jaylyons1]

Originally Posted by jshadeck

Wow. Umm scion IS toyota, same as lexus is toyota, same as cadillac is chevy...
Better suspension??
And i think thats the first time ive heard anyone say the scions bumper is awful, actually its usually the other way around.

Cant we all just admit we all own the same car (minus a few options or lbs here or there) and get along?! Lol this is like aristo owners and gs300 owners bickering over which is better (and those cars are much more different than the brz/frs) jeez...

Not trying to bash, just throwing my preferences out there. Yes, better suspension for me. Between the two, the Scion breaks loose a little earlier which may be fun in some situations, but not when you want traction. Some people do like the Scion bumper better, but its a matter of opinion. To me it looks cheap although I don't mind mine because I have a black car. If it was any other color the exposed black would be annoying.

I do agree though, with the exception of a few things they are the same car. I just don't like the Scion, hence why I drove both and purchased a BRZ, plus I like cars that a little more rare. No one knows what a BRZ is. ^_^

[Pete156]

Originally Posted by BIGCUMBOY

Come on guys get your facts straight lol, if you guys are car people you should know this by now.

Funny, coming from a guy who was just schooled on all the BRZ's options. Did you even research the car before you bought it?


Poor Subaru, they were the slave. It's a shame they also came away from the deal with a much nicer car with their badges on it.