Engine idle chirping (cricket) noise poll. - Page 86 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

axelo · 12-30-2012, 01:10 PM

I agree with xdbuix .... mine a do every 3 complete fills... you fill also improvement of throttle .... I dont mine the "chirping" because in mine even people that dont know about cars saw it as part of what the engine is like...something normal...
Thanks

PabloN · 12-31-2012, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weeber

Hmm after reading the threads on these forums is it safe to say that this is a mechanical/design problem?

The attached TSB (from the TSB sticky) describes an aeration problem with certain pumps & fuels (sorry if this has already been mentioned--I haven't read all the pages on this post). Is there another chirping problem besides this?

whtchocla7e · 12-31-2012, 04:33 PM

I brought my car in to the dealer to reflash the ECM/ECU and had them check out the chirping. They ordered the HPFP for me. They said there's over 140 of these pumps already on backorder so it may be a while. You guys sure are keeping Toyo on their toes.

RavenFR-S · 01-01-2013, 03:08 PM

The reason for the chirping, as I was told by Scion HQ, is that the material used to make the pump did not meet specifications. Under heat, the material expands too much which causes the chirping. I assume this is from a decrease in pressure or air getting into the pump.

They stated the back order I experienced was because new materials were being put into the new pumps by the supplier who makes the pumps. If you recently ordered one it will come in around mid-January - February.

l0aded · 01-02-2013, 02:40 AM

Do newer versions of the car have this? I bought mine right before the New Years and it was only sitting on the lot for a few days. I'm almost 500 miles in and couldnt find the chirping sound.

Mattitude · 01-02-2013, 10:13 AM

2k miles, I've had chirp probably since 2-300 miles, or at least that's when I noticed it. Once the car is warmed up. It's not right having a brand new car sound like it has a bad timing belt everytime I pull up to a McDonalds for a coffee.

I guess it's time to take it by and see if the TSB fixes it. Doubtful, though.

Marcoscrdo · 01-02-2013, 02:48 PM

I heard the chirping around 320~ miles and i thought it was from trying to be cool and turn hard once, but im like "isnt the car designed to be handled like that anyway?"

But then i run into all these posts about 300mile range engine chirp.
The next day i check for chirps and it was gone, should i take it back to dealer still?
Today will check again after work..

enigmaaron · 01-02-2013, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcoscrdo

I heard the chirping around 320~ miles and i thought it was from trying to be cool and turn hard once, but im like "isnt the car designed to be handled like that anyway?"

But then i run into all these posts about 300mile range engine chirp.
The next day i check for chirps and it was gone, should i take it back to dealer still?
Today will check again after work..

I wouldn't waste your time until it shows up consistently so they are sure to reproduce it.

Personally I'm not bothering until some people report back that their chirps are still gone after they've had a new pump for several hundred miles.

RavenFR-S · 01-02-2013, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcoscrdo

I heard the chirping around 320~ miles and i thought it was from trying to be cool and turn hard once, but im like "isnt the car designed to be handled like that anyway?"

But then i run into all these posts about 300mile range engine chirp.
The next day i check for chirps and it was gone, should i take it back to dealer still?
Today will check again after work..

If you want to, you can. The TSB is out there; therefore, Toyota/Scion is aware of the issue. You can say it is an intermediate problem and you have experienced it.

StOpNG0x · 01-02-2013, 10:22 PM

Two questions:

Is it a good idea to print out the TSB that shows a summary of the problem and bring it into the dealer so I don't get looked at like I have 20 heads?

Also, is the TSB for all FR-S's? Or is it only for a certain VIN range? I looked and couldn't find any certain VIN range.

I have the chirp and it's annoying as hell when im idle at a stop light or parked. I have about 1700 miles and it started around 800. Mine was manufactured 9/12.

smokeyFRS · 01-02-2013, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StOpNG0x

Two questions:

Is it a good idea to print out the TSB that shows a summary of the problem and bring it into the dealer so I don't get looked at like I have 20 heads?

Also, is the TSB for all FR-S's? Or is it only for a certain VIN range? I looked and couldn't find any certain VIN range.

I have the chirp and it's annoying as hell when im idle at a stop light or parked. I have about 1700 miles and it started around 800. Mine was manufactured 9/12.

I would bring it in with a printout. See attached TSB, just in case.

Marcoscrdo · 01-03-2013, 12:13 PM

Sorry if i was in the wrong thread, but is there anyone that can post the BRZ version?

RavenFR-S · 01-03-2013, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcoscrdo

Sorry if i was in the wrong thread, but is there anyone that can post the BRZ version?

Please refer to the thread below. Under the first post, it is the third BRZ service bulletin.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21868

n8dog11914 · 01-03-2013, 12:57 PM

My chirping didn't start until ~1500 miles or so on my BRZ.

I am in the same boat as others on this forum, until the issue is truly resolved I am not going into the dealer for a replacement fuel pump. I will let them know of the issue at the next service visit.

The issue is not a big one for me.

View Poll Results: Do you have chirping (cricket) noise during idle once the car is warmed up?
Yes (Please only vote after you have 300 miles or more on the odometer)	3,101	85.22%
No (Please only vote after you have 300 miles or more on the odometer)	538	14.78%
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12-31-2012, 04:33 PM	#1193
whtchocla7e Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Hot Lava Location: CT Posts: 424 Thanks: 30 Thanked 222 Times in 81 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I brought my car in to the dealer to reflash the ECM/ECU and had them check out the chirping. They ordered the HPFP for me. They said there's over 140 of these pumps already on backorder so it may be a while. You guys sure are keeping Toyo on their toes. __________________ Live to drive another day

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12-30-2012, 01:10 PM	#1191
axelo Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Whiteout frs Location: PR Posts: 188 Thanks: 214 Thanked 86 Times in 52 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I agree with xdbuix .... mine a do every 3 complete fills... you fill also improvement of throttle .... I dont mine the "chirping" because in mine even people that dont know about cars saw it as part of what the engine is like...something normal... Thanks

01-01-2013, 03:08 PM	#1194
RavenFR-S Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: FR-S Location: Louisiana Posts: 167 Thanks: 5 Thanked 32 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The reason for the chirping, as I was told by Scion HQ, is that the material used to make the pump did not meet specifications. Under heat, the material expands too much which causes the chirping. I assume this is from a decrease in pressure or air getting into the pump. They stated the back order I experienced was because new materials were being put into the new pumps by the supplier who makes the pumps. If you recently ordered one it will come in around mid-January - February.

01-02-2013, 10:13 AM	#1196
Mattitude Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2013 Raven FR-S Location: South Florida Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	2k miles, I've had chirp probably since 2-300 miles, or at least that's when I noticed it. Once the car is warmed up. It's not right having a brand new car sound like it has a bad timing belt everytime I pull up to a McDonalds for a coffee. I guess it's time to take it by and see if the TSB fixes it. Doubtful, though.

01-02-2013, 10:22 PM	#1200
StOpNG0x Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: Firestorm MT FR-S Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 158 Thanks: 42 Thanked 34 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Two questions: Is it a good idea to print out the TSB that shows a summary of the problem and bring it into the dealer so I don't get looked at like I have 20 heads? Also, is the TSB for all FR-S's? Or is it only for a certain VIN range? I looked and couldn't find any certain VIN range. I have the chirp and it's annoying as hell when im idle at a stop light or parked. I have about 1700 miles and it started around 800. Mine was manufactured 9/12.

01-03-2013, 12:57 PM	#1204
n8dog11914 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 WRB Subaru BRZ 6MT Location: Fort Mill, SC Posts: 272 Thanks: 46 Thanked 72 Times in 58 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My chirping didn't start until ~1500 miles or so on my BRZ. I am in the same boat as others on this forum, until the issue is truly resolved I am not going into the dealer for a replacement fuel pump. I will let them know of the issue at the next service visit. The issue is not a big one for me.

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