top off oil? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

pr086 · 12-21-2012, 10:49 AM

with my first oil change being scheduled for like 7k miles and this being a new engine, i'm sure it will need to have the oil topped off before going in for a change.

what do you recomend i pick up for topping it off? what is in there from the factory? does it have to be the same oil?

strat61caster · 12-21-2012, 11:40 AM

Why would you top it off before it gets changed? It'll get flushed away with the rest of the old oil.

If you're asking if you should check your oil level once a month or every couple thousand miles like most people should be doing, then yes check it. You may be able to get OEM oil through your dealer.

I haven't heard anyone mention burning oil but then again that is a quirk of boxers so that may be the case down the road. I wouldn't worry about it other than paying attention to your car, after the first oil change you should know what's in there just in case.

Opposed · 12-21-2012, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

Why would you top it off before it gets changed? It'll get flushed away with the rest of the old oil.

If you're asking if you should check your oil level once a month or every couple thousand miles like most people should be doing, then yes check it. You may be able to get OEM oil through your dealer.

I haven't heard anyone mention burning oil but then again that is a quirk of boxers so that may be the case down the road. I wouldn't worry about it other than paying attention to your car, after the first oil change you should know what's in there just in case.

I have heard different stories on this subject, but I did burn some oil on break-in. I checked it at around 4k miles, and I burned about 1/4 of a quart, maybe even a little more. I was pretty hard on it. Havent' noticed any burning since changing my oil as of late.

gmookher · 12-21-2012, 11:47 AM

change oil at 1500 after some hard driving

strat61caster · 12-21-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Opposed

and I burned about 1/4 of a quart,

Is it necessary to top off a quarter of a quart? Even if it's a full quart by the time the oil change is supposed to occur that would seem fine to me.

pr086 · 12-21-2012, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

Why would you top it off before it gets changed? It'll get flushed away with the rest of the old oil.

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because a new engine is likely to bur oil, especially during break in. i don't want to be low on oil, hence topping it off if it needs any before i bring it in to be changed.

so does anyone know what is in there from the factory and what would be a good choice to keep on hand for top offs?

Opposed · 12-21-2012, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

Is it necessary to top off a quarter of a quart? Even if it's a full quart by the time the oil change is supposed to occur that would seem fine to me.

I see what your saying. But I didn't change for another 1k miles after that. If its a 1/4 low as you are entering the dealership, then I wouldn't worry about it.

bluesubie · 12-21-2012, 07:11 PM

The oil from the factory is an Idemitsu oil blended for Subaru. You can get a similar oil from a Subaru dealer, but you can top it off with any API SN/ILSAC GF5 0W-20 synthetic oil.

-Dennis

FRSjeff · 12-21-2012, 07:23 PM

See my post:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24174

AZP Installs · 12-28-2012, 06:13 PM

Our suggestion would be to drive about 1500 miles and then have the oil changed at an independent shop with some quality Synthetic 0w20 oil such as Amsoil or Motul. As for topping off, if you are putting in a 1/4 of a quart 0w20 Synthetic can be used to top it off.

I would check it every 1K miles as the boxers have a tendency to consume some oil in our experience.

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EBMCS03 · 12-30-2012, 10:03 PM

Is the engine oil in the FR-S synthetic? I've read the manual on page 344 and nowhere does it indicate synthetic... it only says use "toyota genuine motor oil" Toyota definitely makes non synthetic 0W20 cuz that's what is used in the corolla. 0W20 non-synthetic.

AZP Installs · 12-30-2012, 10:06 PM

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Is the engine oil in the FR-S synthetic? I've read the manual on page 344 and nowhere does it indicate synthetic... it only says use "toyota genuine motor oil" Toyota definitely makes non synthetic 0W20 cuz that's what is used in the corolla. 0W20 non-synthetic.

I'm not sure about the FRS, but I believe the BRZ specifies synthetic and with a DI engine, I wouldn't suggest running anything but synthetic in it no matter what the manual specifies.

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EBMCS03 · 12-30-2012, 10:13 PM

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I'm not sure about the FRS, but I believe the BRZ specifies synthetic and with a DI engine, I wouldn't suggest running anything but synthetic in it no matter what the manual specifies.

I would suspect it should be synthetic if the BRZ specifically says synthetic in their manual and the FR-S comes out of the same shop... but who knows...

Well. if its not synthetic a top off using synthetic would cause more harm than anything. One should not mix synthetic / non-synthetic oil.

And then the other question is the dealers if the car is synthetic and the dealers replace the oil with non-synthetic thats a big no no too...

Im going to search around and see if this topic has come up before... cuz this will concern me during the next oil change at the dealer... most Toyota's are not synthetic and if the techs put in regular oil mixed with synthetic... wow...

AZP Installs · 12-30-2012, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by EBMCS03

I would suspect it should be synthetic if the BRZ specifically says synthetic in their manual and the FR-S comes out of the same shop... but who knows...

Well. if its not synthetic a top off using synthetic would cause more harm than anything. One should not mix synthetic / non-synthetic oil.

And then the other question is the dealers if the car is synthetic and the dealers replace the oil with non-synthetic thats a big no no too...

Im going to search around and see if this topic has come up before... cuz this will concern me during the next oil change at the dealer... most Toyota's are not synthetic and if the techs put in regular oil mixed with synthetic... wow...

Why do you feel mixing synthetic and non-synthetic is going to cause harm? In actuality if you are just topping off, any oil will work fine. In the grand scheme of things a 1/2 quart of non-synthetic mixed in there considering the total amount of oil in a BRZ/FRS engine won't harm it at all.

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12-21-2012, 10:49 AM	#1
pr086 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: fast Location: US Posts: 325 Thanks: 1 Thanked 26 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	top off oil? with my first oil change being scheduled for like 7k miles and this being a new engine, i'm sure it will need to have the oil topped off before going in for a change. what do you recomend i pick up for topping it off? what is in there from the factory? does it have to be the same oil?

12-21-2012, 11:40 AM	#2
strat61caster - Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: '13 FRS - STX Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 10,383 Thanks: 13,790 Thanked 9,502 Times in 5,013 Posts Mentioned: 94 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Why would you top it off before it gets changed? It'll get flushed away with the rest of the old oil. If you're asking if you should check your oil level once a month or every couple thousand miles like most people should be doing, then yes check it. You may be able to get OEM oil through your dealer. I haven't heard anyone mention burning oil but then again that is a quirk of boxers so that may be the case down the road. I wouldn't worry about it other than paying attention to your car, after the first oil change you should know what's in there just in case.

12-21-2012, 11:47 AM	#4
gmookher Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: VortechSC,BorlaEL,Perrin,GCRace Location: HighHeatHighAltitudeAZ,USA Posts: 2,254 Thanks: 458 Thanked 669 Times in 394 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	change oil at 1500 after some hard driving

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bluesubie Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2004 Subaru Forester 2.5XT Location: Central NJ Posts: 681 Thanks: 28 Thanked 273 Times in 200 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The oil from the factory is an Idemitsu oil blended for Subaru. You can get a similar oil from a Subaru dealer, but you can top it off with any API SN/ILSAC GF5 0W-20 synthetic oil. -Dennis

12-21-2012, 07:23 PM	#9
FRSjeff Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: FR-S (red manual) Location: San Fernando Valley Posts: 123 Thanks: 181 Thanked 45 Times in 31 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	See my post: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24174

12-28-2012, 06:13 PM	#10
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12-30-2012, 10:03 PM	#11
EBMCS03 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Argento FR-S Location: So Cal Posts: 222 Thanks: 9 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Is the engine oil in the FR-S synthetic? I've read the manual on page 344 and nowhere does it indicate synthetic... it only says use "toyota genuine motor oil" Toyota definitely makes non synthetic 0W20 cuz that's what is used in the corolla. 0W20 non-synthetic.

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