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Old 12-28-2012, 12:20 PM   #15
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I'm really happy for you and i'm gonna let you finish, but open source tuning solutions are the greatest thing of all time. OF ALL TIME.

Seriously though, thanks for posting this. I'm just being a jackass.
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Old 12-28-2012, 01:09 PM   #16
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The people selling tunes would be crazy not to adopt this as well. They will sell a whole lot more tunes if the initial cost is cut in half.
If this solution works as dwx said (plaintext XML), then the tuners selling tunes would be crazy TO adopt this. Once a customer buys a tune, there would be nothing stopping that person from from copying/reselling the tune as their own, or even uploading it to the web for BRZ owners everywhere to download.
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Tuners would still make money. Just because i can go download a basemap to get my car running doesnt mean its tuned. It just means i dont have to have it towed to a shop to be tuned after i install my turbo kit or whatever else.

Either way the car still needs to be dyno tuned, whether or not the tune itself is in an open format.
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:27 PM   #18
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If this solution works as dwx said (plaintext XML), then the tuners selling tunes would be crazy TO adopt this. Once a customer buys a tune, there would be nothing stopping that person from from copying/reselling the tune as their own, or even uploading it to the web for BRZ owners everywhere to download.
I've tuned a lot of cars and I can tell you that this is only half-true. It applies more for vehicles with very basic modifications. When you buy a tune, you are often buying a service and expertise more than you are buying some drop-in product. Variations in hardware (intake systems, fuel systems, exhaust), fuel quality, and the intended use of the vehicle make many tunes a one-off job.

I've tuned a lot of (non-BRZ) cars and publicly showed parts of timing maps, AFR curves, etc. It doesn't matter as much as you think. Setups vary a lot, and ever tune is built off somebody else's work whether it's something the OEM did or some information obtained over the itnernet.
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:27 PM   #19
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This is great news. I'm glad there are other tuning solutions slowly coming to light. As great as ecutek is, they've burned me in the past. Open source is really the way to go!
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:49 PM   #20
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If this solution works as dwx said (plaintext XML), then the tuners selling tunes would be crazy TO adopt this. Once a customer buys a tune, there would be nothing stopping that person from from copying/reselling the tune as their own, or even uploading it to the web for BRZ owners everywhere to download.
That's the way most tuning solutions work, as opposed to Ecutek where you have maps locked to cars. Tuners normally make money tuning, not selling maps, which is one of the big rubs on Ecutek. Most tuners don't really even like the hassle involved with Ecutek and having to generate maps for specific customers, etc. With open source, Cobb AccessPort, or even standalones the maps are pretty open for everyone to use.
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Very interesting in seeing this.
Coming from the LSx land where you can pick up HPTuners suite and a cable for $450ish and tune yourself... ECUTek seems overpriced to me, costs almost $1000 by the time your done and all you can do then is load a tune, meh.
I can't wait to see how open source comes along for this.
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There's already some tuners using it, it has d4s support and per gear rev limiter etc but I don't know what other features.

First off , this software does not flash yet.

Does not do anything yet...maybe log??

Screenshots from the ecutek software was sent to this software guy..

I'm aware of the dealer that was involved in this.

Which is the main reason all the table names are blurred out and not shown.

The guy who makes the ecuedit, mazdaedit, gtredit, brzedit software does not know how to do custom code.

Per Gear Rev Limits requires custom code - and although some of the stuff EcuTek has done can be rewritten by someone else, it can not be sucked out and put into other ecus with out EcuTek software.

I'm all for having another option, but please understand this is nothing more than screenshots and this software does not do a single thing yet.

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Screenshots from the ecutek software was sent to this software guy..

I'm aware of the dealer that was involved in this.

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I'm gonna go on a limb here and connect dots from here and other sources and say it was the same vendor who requested logs from your tune before actually producing their tune.
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I'm all for having another option, but please understand this is nothing more than screenshots and this software does not do a single thing yet.

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If that's the case someone has been bullshitting me hard!!
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If that's the case someone has been bullshitting me hard!!
Very hard

Just like that open source thread over 6 months ago on another forum where someone said they were able to read the Ecu out with ecuflash...

Then nothing came of it
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keen to see what can come of this...

if you were to go down this route when the software is available what cable would you need?
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keen to see what can come of this...

if you were to go down this route when the software is available what cable would you need?
A Tactrix cable

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not worth it. ecutek is where its at for our ecu

or just go haltech
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