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Old 12-24-2012, 05:18 PM   #85
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If they put this much effort into Malibus and whatever the name of the current Cavalier/Cobalt replacement is I might care about GM products a bit more.
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Old 12-24-2012, 05:44 PM   #86
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If those renderings are anything near accurate, its horrendous.
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Old 12-24-2012, 07:17 PM   #87
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Ugh those taillights...gag
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:40 PM   #88
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If those renderings are anything near accurate, its horrendous.
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:57 PM   #89
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If that's the car I think they made a step backwards.. I loved the C5 then the C6 was just awesome to me.. Now it doesn't look that sleek.. Like to transformer-ish for me.. The side profile looks ok.. But the front and rear doesn't to me
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:58 PM   #90
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Ugh kill it with fire. I love vetts but this is no good.
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Old 12-25-2012, 12:02 AM   #91
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Wait a minute. Is GM seriously bragging about their engine being 40lbs lighter than the M5's new twin turbo V8 that makes 100 more hp and 50 more lb-ft at 1500 rpm than theirs does at peak?
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Old 12-25-2012, 12:38 AM   #92
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Wait a minute. Is GM seriously bragging about their engine being 40lbs lighter than the M5's new twin turbo V8 that makes 100 more hp and 50 more lb-ft at 1500 rpm than theirs does at peak?
I guess the idea is that if you turbo it, then it'll make more power and be the same weight?
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Old 12-25-2012, 12:47 AM   #93
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It could not be more obvious that nine months ago a GTR and a 599 decided to get a hotel room. The unfortunate aftermath of that high horsepowered sexual encounter was this platypus of a vehicle we see before us. If it had gotten it's looks from the 599 and smatterings of horse power and chassis dynamics from both sides of the gene pool then what a wonderful thing that would have been to bring into the world. Unfortunately it looks as if the GTR genes are dominating the appearance equation and while we all know the GTR is a monster on the track, I am sorry to say it's just not a looker.

I'll sum up what I've said in this paragraph and seen in all of the rendors/guesstimations out there in one word. EWWWWWWW!!!!!
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Old 12-25-2012, 01:15 AM   #94
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They're comparing it to the N63 (402/440, 503 lbs) not the S63 (565/500, weight unknown). And official figures aren't out for the LT1 yet. GM has only said 450+. Most people have assumed that to simply mean 450, ignoring the +. I'll wait for the January 13th.
It just says 4.4L twin turbo. I doubt the + means 100 hp, too. I'll call 465.

Also 500 lb-ft @ 1500 rpm. Holy fuck.

40 lbs for 100 hp and retarded torque is a deal I'd take on pretty much any car...
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GM can't design anything remotely sexy. The C6 vette looks great and the C5 was also nice for it's time, but I seriously hope these rendering are all wrong, because this is pretty bad. The whole back half of the car is all wrong. Needs more curves!
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Old 12-26-2012, 01:26 PM   #96
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They call it renderings for a reason, you people believe anything you read and see...
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I really really want GM to pull their head out of the ass and make the Corvette a legitimately good car. I'm tired of having the bash the interior because they parts bin it out of an old Pontiac or Chevy Cobalt. There's no acceptable rationalization that excuses putting interior pieces from a $16k econobox in your halo sports/muscle car.

[personal rant] The second problem with the 'vette's interior is they keep listening to the never-dying baby boomers that are stuck in a biggest design rut ever. Having a hideous flowing spine stabbing out from the IP cowl and going around the center stack was ugly back with the Olds Aurora and it'll be ugly until the end of time. Nothing says "I hate you and I wish you weren't in my car" to the passenger like a segregated "dual cockpit" interior design, and GM management needs to be hanged and stabbed repeatedly for clinging on to this awful sociological philosophy. [/personal rant]

I look forward to the Stingray model being revealed. There's no real need for 450 HP and 26 hwy MPG, I'd much rather have 400 HP and 30 hwy MPG. Hell, why not a Hybrid Corvette that still makes 500 HP but gets 40 combined MPG? The car has the aero efficiency to do it, now it just needs the management forethought to make it happen.

Who wouldn't like a 4.0L V8 that spins to 8k RPM with a 7-speed manual and a KERS-style motor?
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If things keep progressing like it has been the last few generations the next Corvette will be an absolute beast.

The interior may not be up to the euro-luxury standard, but it is still a Chevy. I am fine with the interior the way it is as long as it still performs like super cars that cost twice the price. Who buys a sports car and says "hey look at this corinthian leather, and the amazing hand stitched steering wheel"? We all buy a sports car for the fun of it. I would take a Corvette over an M3 any day of the week.

How many cars perform as well as a base Corvette for under 50k? How many super cars perform like the Z06 and cost under 100k? (yeah, yeah the GTR).

A Chevy Corvette is not about luxury and refinement, it is about pure performance. American car for the unrefined American.
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