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kludger · 12-20-2012, 03:36 PM

Yeah a bit harsh, and personally I'm glad you shared your experience with traction control off.

Most of us who bought the twins are likely to try and push the limits of traction, it's part of why we bought it in the first place instead of a Camry... and especially in the rain where you can get the limits of traction without having to do high speeds.

Anyhow I've enjoyed driving in the rain with sport mode on, and now I know not to go all the way to traction control off, so thanks for sharing so many of us can learn from your experience.

wbradley · 12-20-2012, 03:38 PM

I learned my lesson when I flipped and srote off my 1985 Golf GTI in 1986.

Your lesson wasn't quite as harsh, I had to go without a car for several years as a result of my stupidity.

Chen · 12-20-2012, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chenshuo

it's idiots like you that made the rest of us pay higher insurance premiums. You don't deserve to drive this car. get off the road.

Your insurance must suck. My premiums aren't high at all and I'm with state farm insurance.

Ingen · 12-20-2012, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

I went out to a parking lot and gave up after 5 minutes. The car is unruly without TCS in the wet.

I agree. I have found sport mode to be much more forgiving, and more fun.

mackeye · 12-20-2012, 03:44 PM

You can enjoy your car without driving like that.
It's already an expensive car so if you're OK to drift then you're exposing yourself to these types of situations.

brianlo622 · 12-20-2012, 03:46 PM

hmm my insurance is $403/6 months

rhoyle · 12-20-2012, 03:47 PM

Stop being a moron on public roads. You're not a race car driver, and if you were you'd know to drive safely on the streets. Go do some HPDE events and learn the limits of the car there, in a controlled environment.

Why on earth would you want to do a "burn out" in a BRZ anyway?

FWIW: My insurance is 50/mo. 100/300/100 w a 250$ deductible

Ingen · 12-20-2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by brianlo622

hmm my insurance is $403/6 months

Wouldn't that be nice.

125/month here.

Touge Monster · 12-20-2012, 03:56 PM

Hey props to the op for being honest and thick skinned.

RAWR BRZ · 12-20-2012, 04:17 PM

Why didnt subaru/toyota design the car with side skirts that are removable? All my previous cars are like that... it makes more sense than having a one piece thats connected to the rear quarter panels and everything else around there. Is it for lower cost?

OrbitalEllipses · 12-20-2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RAWR BRZ

Why didnt subaru/toyota design the car with side skirts that are removable? All my previous cars are like that... it makes more sense than having a one piece thats connected to the rear quarter panels and everything else around there. Is it for lower cost?

The car doesn't HAVE side skirts. Ground-effects/rockers can be added on.

michaelahess · 12-20-2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Touge Monster

Hey props to the op for being honest and thick skinned.

And falsifying an insurance claim, yeah, honorable guy right there.

His fault for being an idiot, but he makes us all pay by claiming it.

Not harsh, just the truth.

Common sense isn't learned...

Touge Monster · 12-20-2012, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by michaelahess

And falsifying an insurance claim, yeah, honorable guy right there.

His fault for being an idiot, but he makes us all pay by claiming it.

Not harsh, just the truth.

Common sense isn't learned...

Hmm dont see how the claim was falsified maybe glossed over is a better way of putting it. Either way hes being truthful here and facing whatever the forums are throwing his way. If people are gonna cry about premiums going up maybe you should try something cheaper like public transportation...lol go buy a honda and then you can cry to me about insurance rates.

michaelahess · 12-20-2012, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Touge Monster

Hmm dont see how the claim was falsified maybe glossed over is a better way of putting it. Either way hes being truthful here and facing whatever the forums are throwing his way. If people are gonna cry about premiums going up maybe you should try something cheaper like public transportation...lol go buy a honda and then you can cry to me about insurance rates.

He intentionally broke the law, (cookies in an intersection) did damage to his car, and claimed it. That is ILLEGAL.

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kludger Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: '13 Boxter S, '13 BRZ(gone) Location: SE PA Posts: 235 Thanks: 309 Thanked 103 Times in 57 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah a bit harsh, and personally I'm glad you shared your experience with traction control off. Most of us who bought the twins are likely to try and push the limits of traction, it's part of why we bought it in the first place instead of a Camry... and especially in the rain where you can get the limits of traction without having to do high speeds. Anyhow I've enjoyed driving in the rain with sport mode on, and now I know not to go all the way to traction control off, so thanks for sharing so many of us can learn from your experience.

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rhoyle Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: BRZ SWP 6MT Location: ICT Posts: 142 Thanks: 33 Thanked 54 Times in 31 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Stop being a moron on public roads. You're not a race car driver, and if you were you'd know to drive safely on the streets. Go do some HPDE events and learn the limits of the car there, in a controlled environment. Why on earth would you want to do a "burn out" in a BRZ anyway? FWIW: My insurance is 50/mo. 100/300/100 w a 250$ deductible

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