My IS300 and a skyline...

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by ill roller

I mean you don't build a car like this unless you're doing it for yourself, cause I've had plenty of people talk down on it, and I wouldn't change a thing... But cheap rice? It has Work wheels, a Buddy Club wing, JDM TRD front bumper and side skirts... I fail to see what's cheap about it... As for the styling of it, it's a drift car, it's supposed to look loud and obnoxious.

Haha well it certainly does look loud and obnoxious.

In terms of the cheapness, it's not the individual prices/brand names, it's the overall look. Take the bodykit on the front. It might be TRD, but the design looks ricey/aftermarket for some reason. It's also got a large hole where there used to be a grill/emblem, and a uneven body panel gap between the hood and the front bumper. There's blue tint over the lights, which I automatically associate with rice. In the rear, the bumper is mis-aligned. Looks like there was an accident that wasn't repaired properly (paint chips, etc.) You've got the N1 style slant-angle exhaust which is borderline IMO. Then the oversized unpainted wing and the stretched tires.

Anyway man, I'm just giving my honest opinion. You definitely seem to like it though, so that's all that matters. Keep doing what you do. I can say it looks like a fun daily driver.

[dori.]

Originally Posted by ill roller

Specs on what? The wheels, engine, whole car?

errythang

[ill roller]

Originally Posted by fatoni

the only thing more lame than sleepers are gigantic wings. when i check to gauge the quality of a car i basically ignore all the obvious items and simply ask what tires and coilovers they use. id rather have a $2500 budget for tires and $800 for rims than the other way around

That is a foolish way of looking at things, I'd rather just buy the highest quality parts/the ones I want the most all of the time regardless of the cost... Besides, wheels you buy once, tires you buy 4-6 per trackday.

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

Haha well it certainly does look loud and obnoxious.

In terms of the cheapness, it's not the individual prices/brand names, it's the overall look. Take the bodykit on the front. It might be TRD, but the design looks ricey/aftermarket for some reason. It's also got a large hole where there used to be a grill/emblem, and a uneven body panel gap between the hood and the front bumper. There's blue tint over the lights, which I automatically associate with rice. In the rear, the bumper is mis-aligned. Looks like there was an accident that wasn't repaired properly (paint chips, etc.) You've got the N1 style slant-angle exhaust which is borderline IMO. Then the oversized unpainted wing and the stretched tires.

Anyway man, I'm just giving my honest opinion. You definitely seem to like it though, so that's all that matters. Keep doing what you do. I can say it looks like a fun daily driver.

This bumper never came with an emblem, they just came with chicken wire/mesh crap, which is tacky. There's no uneven gap on the front bumper, that's just how it fits.

Tinted lights are rice? Track/drift cars use them all the time, I fail to see how protecting your lights from chips and shattering on the track while making them look better is rice.

The bumper is misaligned because it's clipped so many walls and haybails that there's no good way to attach it anymore. This is a drift car, I take it you haven't seen too many drift/track cars before if you think this is related to a poorly repaired accident.

The slant angled exhaust comment is by far the funniest of all... You realize there's a purpose for that right? My entire exhaust from the cat back only has one bend. Less bends=better exhaust flow.

The wing I can understand is not for everybody, and the stretched tires I'm not even going to waste my time discussing, but pretty much everything else you said gave me a good laugh.

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by ill roller

This bumper never came with an emblem, they just came with chicken wire/mesh crap, which is tacky. There's no uneven gap on the front bumper, that's just how it fits.

Tinted lights are rice? Track/drift cars use them all the time, I fail to see how protecting your lights from chips and shattering on the track while making them look better is rice.

The bumper is misaligned because it's clipped so many walls and haybails that there's no good way to attach it anymore. This is a drift car, I take it you haven't seen too many drift/track cars before if you think this is related to a poorly repaired accident.

The slant angled exhaust comment is by far the funniest of all... You realize there's a purpose for that right? My entire exhaust from the cat back only has one bend. Less bends=better exhaust flow.

The wing I can understand is not for everybody, and the stretched tires I'm not even going to waste my time discussing, but pretty much everything else you said gave me a good laugh.

Sorry I just re-read your first post where you said this was your drift car. Ok, that makes sense. You could have just said becauseracecar!

Reading comp > me. For some reason I thought this was your daily driver.

[ill roller]

Originally Posted by dori.

errythang

Stock engine, full custom exhaust w/ ASpec muffler, Stance super sport coilovers revalved and re-rated for 12k and 14k springs, Megan front upper control arms/rear lower control arms/rear toe arms, Figs poly front lower control arm bushings, Work meisters 17x10 +15 and 18x10 +15, Hankook Ventus RS2 225/40/27 in front, Kumho Ecsta something 215/40/18 in back, Buddy Club wing w/ the stands extended and wideposted, Lamin-x headlights/tail lights, 25mm custom front wide fenders, TRD Neo v2 front bumper and side skirts, VIS carbon hood, Altezza window visors, Recaro Pole Position seat, Tom's shift knob, Pioneer headunit, there's probably more but I'm tired of typing out this list.

[ill roller]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

Sorry I just re-read your first post where you said this was your drift car. Ok, that makes sense. You could have just said becauseracecar!

Reading comp > me. For some reason I thought this was your daily driver.

I wouldn't have said that, because that shit is gay as hell... And it was my daily driver and my drift car for about 4-5 years, now it's just a drift car.

[EJ20]

LOL I was expecting a "real" skyline :P but your IS300 is great too

Just remind me of my rwd 03 impreza... it was too my only dd and drift/fun/track car.... sold it with 146,000 km's (almost 100k miles)

[mact]

I used to have an 01 IS300. Shouldn't have let that car go.

[gmookher]

Are those the right tires for them wheels?

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by ill roller

That is a foolish way of looking at things, I'd rather just buy the highest quality parts/the ones I want the most all of the time regardless of the cost... Besides, wheels you buy once, tires you buy 4-6 per trackday.



This bumper never came with an emblem, they just came with chicken wire/mesh crap, which is tacky. There's no uneven gap on the front bumper, that's just how it fits.

Tinted lights are rice? Track/drift cars use them all the time, I fail to see how protecting your lights from chips and shattering on the track while making them look better is rice.

The bumper is misaligned because it's clipped so many walls and haybails that there's no good way to attach it anymore. This is a drift car, I take it you haven't seen too many drift/track cars before if you think this is related to a poorly repaired accident.

The slant angled exhaust comment is by far the funniest of all... You realize there's a purpose for that right? My entire exhaust from the cat back only has one bend. Less bends=better exhaust flow.

The wing I can understand is not for everybody, and the stretched tires I'm not even going to waste my time discussing, but pretty much everything else you said gave me a good laugh.

rims are almost a negligible factor while tires are easily the most important part of any car in any capacity, let alone a performance oriented car. how much lighter and stronger is a $2500 set than a $1000 or so set? maybe its just me but id rather have that money invested in suspension rather than overpriced, wicked offset wheels that sit outside the fenders when i drift.

im not knocking your car really. i just feel like thats a lot more show than go.

[ill roller]

Originally Posted by fatoni

rims are almost a negligible factor while tires are easily the most important part of any car in any capacity, let alone a performance oriented car. how much lighter and stronger is a $2500 set than a $1000 or so set? maybe its just me but id rather have that money invested in suspension rather than overpriced, wicked offset wheels that sit outside the fenders when i drift.

im not knocking your car really. i just feel like thats a lot more show than go.

I'm not arguing the importance of tires... I'm saying that instead of only buying a quality part for one aspect of your car, why not buy the best of everything? I have sub $2000 wheels, I have all the suspension parts I want at the moment, I have tires that more than do the job, so what am I missing?

I get it, you're a guy that likes cheap wheels, and doing whatever is the cheapest thing to make the car fast, I am not. I respect the companies that make quality products and help build this industry that we love so much, and wouldn't buy inferior or knock-off wheels from companies that do nothing but bring this business down because of cheap-asses that don't have the money (or want to save) to buy a quality product. I own 10 sets of wheels right now between 4 sets of cars, none are knockoffs, but the majority of them were bought cheap (many for under $1000). And yes, quality wheels are stronger and lighter than knock-offs.

My car is more show than go, if you could read you'd see that it was also my daily. I built it to be simple, effective, and look cool, because I also have this to drift with:



And now this as well:



Not to mention a minivan that I'll be building for occasional drifting... Drifting is about having fun and doing cool looking shit. I'm not out to break any record lap times (or act like I do in your case), or win a professional championship, and my cars are built to accommodate that.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by ill roller

I'm not arguing the importance of tires... I'm saying that instead of only buying a quality part for one aspect of your car, why not buy the best of everything? I have sub $2000 wheels, I have all the suspension parts I want at the moment, I have tires that more than do the job, so what am I missing?

I get it, you're a guy that likes cheap wheels, and doing whatever is the cheapest thing to make the car fast, I am not. I respect the companies that make quality products and help build this industry that we love so much, and wouldn't buy inferior or knock-off wheels from companies that do nothing but bring this business down because of cheap-asses that don't have the money (or want to save) to buy a quality product. I own 10 sets of wheels right now between 4 sets of cars, none are knockoffs, but the majority of them were bought cheap (many for under $1000). And yes, quality wheels are stronger and lighter than knock-offs.

My car is more show than go, if you could read you'd see that it was also my daily. I built it to be simple, effective, and look cool, because I also have this to drift with:



And now this as well:



Not to mention a minivan that I'll be building for occasional drifting... Drifting is about having fun and doing cool looking shit. I'm not out to break any record lap times (or act like I do in your case), or win a professional championship, and my cars are built to accommodate that.

it turns out i can read. you called the car a daily driver, a drift car, and a beater. where i come from the terms beater and show are mutually exclusive.

no. you dont get it. im not a guy who likes cheap rims. im a guy who likes nice suspension/tires. im not out to act like im braking lap records. im just out to buy mods that support track driving instead of riding around hellaflush. to each his own

[rice_classic]

It's not my cup of tea but I like that you like it and I like what you're doing with it.

The aesthetics leave much to be desired; Blue lights, big wing and stretched tires serve no real purpose so it's not my thing. However, you are out playing with your toys, learning car control (because drifting ain't easy) etc, and I think that is very very cool.

So keep it up!


p.s. I like your comment: "it's a little beat up because it gets used." Exactly how it should be.

[ill roller]

Originally Posted by LSxJunkie

LOL sleepers are lame. I guess slower cars should get a heads up before they get their paint sucked off.

Wow, you sound like a fucking child... Drag racing is a joke. You could have the greatest sleeper of all time and it wouldn't affect me because I wouldn't be racing it regardless of what it looked like.

Originally Posted by fatoni

it turns out i can read. you called the car a daily driver, a drift car, and a beater. where i come from the terms beater and show are mutually exclusive.

no. you dont get it. im not a guy who likes cheap rims. im a guy who likes nice suspension/tires. im not out to act like im braking lap records. im just out to buy mods that support track driving instead of riding around hellaflush. to each his own

It's not a show car, so that's great if you want to worry about words being mutually exclusive.

I like nice suspension and tires, I bought mods that support track driving, and the fact that I do 8-10 track days a year as well as countless hours of street drifting backs that up... The fact that I do that while still being low and having low offset wheels just shows that you really don't know what you're talking about.