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Old 12-13-2012, 10:57 AM   #15
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Wilwood fit OEM wheels AP <> OEM
Completely different goals.

If someone wants a 14" rotor 6 piston brake setup they won't even consider using stock wheels. People looking at this kit are most likely doing so for looks, or because they have a need for massive heatsinks. Neither apply to someone who is keeping the stock wheels.

If you want an awesome brake upgrade from AP/Essex and still use stock wheels you can run the competition sprint kit with a 10mm spacer on the front wheels.
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:59 AM   #16
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not to knock the product but i dont really see the need for something like this. if you plan to make a car go fast enough to need that, you picked the wrong car. monster brakes though.
There's no need for 90% of the mods available for these cars either People want what they want and it'd be silly for AP not to offer a system that competes with the Brembo and large Stoptech kits.
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:06 AM   #17
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If you want an awesome brake upgrade from AP/Essex and still use stock wheels you can run the competition sprint kit with a 10mm spacer on the front wheels.
Would you have to get longer studs or are the APs long enough for just a 10mm hubcentric spacer without longer studs?
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:08 AM   #18
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This is a tremendous setup, that'd be bulletproof/fadeproof for our application.

That being said, I'd like to see a quality 4 corner 4/2 pot setup (calipers/rotors) that will be track suitable, save weight overall, and not go over 10% of the MSRP value ($2500-2900) of our cars.

Other than buying used STI calipers & Girodisc rotors--a Unicorn? Lol
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:20 AM   #19
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Would you have to get longer studs or are the APs long enough for just a 10mm hubcentric spacer without longer studs?
The 10MM hubcentric spacers from Eibach and that ichiba or whatever company include longer studs. I run extended ARP studs anyways and suggest the ARPs. They are VERY easy to install up front using either the on-car methods or off the car with a press.
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This is a tremendous setup, that'd be bulletproof/fadeproof for our application.

That being said, I'd like to see a quality 4 corner 4/2 pot setup (calipers/rotors) that will be track suitable, save weight overall, and not go over 10% of the MSRP value ($2500-2900) of our cars.

Other than buying used STI calipers & Girodisc rotors--a Unicorn? Lol
Why run 2 pot rears? The rear brakes are more than capable enough. I'd only replace the rear hardware if I could save a good amount of weight personally. Sounds like the Essex Sprint (or endurance if you need larger heatsinks) comp setup would meet your needs. This is going slightly off topic The big 4 pot rear setup makes sense with this massive front kit for appearance reasons.
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:44 AM   #21
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This is a tremendous setup, that'd be bulletproof/fadeproof for our application.

That being said, I'd like to see a quality 4 corner 4/2 pot setup (calipers/rotors) that will be track suitable, save weight overall, and not go over 10% of the MSRP value ($2500-2900) of our cars.

Other than buying used STI calipers & Girodisc rotors--a Unicorn? Lol
I agree with Dave just get the Sprint kit and some nice rear rotors and pads.
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:56 AM   #22
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Understood guys, but there's something to be said for a 'turn key' integrated kit similar to what I'd described above.

Just my .02... ;-)
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Old 12-13-2012, 12:21 PM   #23
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This is a tremendous setup, that'd be bulletproof/fadeproof for our application.

That being said, I'd like to see a quality 4 corner 4/2 pot setup (calipers/rotors) that will be track suitable, save weight overall, and not go over 10% of the MSRP value ($2500-2900) of our cars.

Other than buying used STI calipers & Girodisc rotors--a Unicorn? Lol
There's always the AP Racing 4 or 6 pot front kit that i think Stillen makes. They have a matching rear kit as well. If you want a more track oriented kit then the Essex kits would be better.
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:14 PM   #24
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Understood guys, but there's something to be said for a 'turn key' integrated kit similar to what I'd described above.

Just my .02... ;-)
But you are assuming it needs rears to be turn key? I'd rather save the cash if I don't need something.

But then I didn't "need" this car either so I guess that's a bad arguement to make lol
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Definitely nothing poseur about these. They are extremely capable, and I'd have absolutely no qualms about putting these on any forced induction FT86. I'd actually have no worries about dropping in some race pads and putting them on a Vette, Viper, M3, (or insert your favorite silly fast sports car). They are more track-oriented than any of the other competing systems that I've seen, barring our own Competition Systems.
I never meant to claim this kit was incapable. The race kit you have is a nice piece, but this fits my DD street car that I'm not racing much better. Albeit 14" discs and weight gain are not what my stock car needs. I only pulled out the poseur card because I know this car's not going to the track anytime soon.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:33 PM   #26
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I never meant to claim this kit was incapable. The race kit you have is a nice piece, but this fits my DD street car that I'm not racing much better. Albeit 14" discs and weight gain are not what my stock car needs. I only pulled out the poseur card because I know this car's not going to the track anytime soon.
I knew what you meant...it's all good.:happy0180:

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There's always the AP Racing 4 or 6 pot front kit that i think Stillen makes. They have a matching rear kit as well. If you want a more track oriented kit then the Essex kits would be better.
Just keep in mind that although the Stillen kits use AP Racing calipers, they are not using AP Racing discs. I believe Stillen makes the aluminum hats in house, but I have no idea where the iron discs to which they attach come from.
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But then I didn't "need" this car either so I guess that's a bad arguement to make lol
The words 'need' and 'want' are often used interchangeably, and in most cases they shouldn't be...particularly when discussing toys!
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I'd trust the Jeff Ritter designed setups over the Stillen designed setups every time.
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