1966 Ford Mustang T-5R

[Wes B.]

Originally Posted by LSxJunkie

They weren't. I only wanted to post one, but every time I posted the link into the img tool, nothing showed up. For some reason I couldn't see the other 3 links when I went to edit them out.

Your and my definition of shadetree mechanic differs. Shadetree mechanics, in my mind, do not have the skills to work professionally. If they have those skills, what separates them from the folks at DSE who build these things for a living, besides job title?

A different career separates them from the folks at DSE. The guys who I work with on certain projects all have other careers (as do I), but we all love working on cars whether it be swapping engines, transmissions, solid axles or extensively modifying and hot-rodding.

[Allch Chcar]

I have to admit, that's pretty sweet. Simple and clean with attention to detail.

And @LSxJunkie , welding and fabrication is now possible for "shade tree mechanics."
Who now work from garages.
I laugh but it's true.

[Wes B.]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

I have to admit, that's pretty sweet. Simple and clean with attention to detail.

And @LSxJunkie , welding and fabrication is now possible for "shade tree mechanics."
Who now work from garages.
I laugh but it's true.

Honestly, the only reason why this Mustang is such a hit is because of it's natural simplicity and insane attention to detail.

Indeed, it is! That's why I have a welder in my garage.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by Wes B.

Honestly, the only reason why this Mustang is such a hit is because of it's natural simplicity and insane attention to detail.

Indeed, it is! That's why I have a welder in my garage.

Wouldn't exactly call that motor 'simple'...

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by Wes B.

Engine: Ford/Lotus 250 c.i. Quad Cam Indy Car V8 bored and stroked to 292 c.i. -- 426 hp @ 6,900 rpm and 300+ (max of 362) ft/lbs of torque from 3,000 thru 7,000 rpm.

I also love Martini livery.

[Wes B.]

Originally Posted by Dimman

Wouldn't exactly call that motor 'simple'...

It's simple compared to a lot of the engines we have nowadays.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by Wes B.

It's simple compared to a lot of the engines we have nowadays.

I believe, in the case of this motor, you are confusing the word 'simple' with the word 'epic'.

Look closely at the ITBs/velocity stacks. How does the intake porting run?

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by LSxJunkie

Having professional tools and skills elevates you beyond shade tree, IMHO. This car was a garage build by a semi-pro.

The difference being a professional with tools versus just a guy with professional tools.

Originally Posted by Dimman

Wouldn't exactly call that motor 'simple'...

Mechanically not so much. There was probably a good deal of work mechanically and especially fabbing the mounts for the subframe like LSXjunkie said. But compared to some cars these days it's incredibly simple, especially electronically.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

The difference being a professional with tools versus just a guy with professional tools.



Mechanically not so much. There was probably a good deal of work mechanically and especially fabbing the mounts for the subframe like LSXjunkie said. But compared to some cars these days it's incredibly simple, especially electronically.

LSXjunkie pointed out the fabwork is not simple, and though putting in the motor may have been one of the less difficult things physically, I was/am pointing out that it is an old-timey motor with complex fueling (I'm assuming mechanical injection for the ITBs rather than carbs given the original application) and the fact that it has vertical intake ports. Awesome, yes. Simple, no. Plus finding one likely isn't a simple task either. Heh...

So nothing simple at all, really.

[Wes B.]

Originally Posted by Dimman

LSXjunkie pointed out the fabwork is not simple, and though putting in the motor may have been one of the less difficult things physically, I was/am pointing out that it is an old-timey motor with complex fueling (I'm assuming mechanical injection for the ITBs rather than carbs given the original application) and the fact that it has vertical intake ports. Awesome, yes. Simple, no. Plus finding one likely isn't a simple task either. Heh...

So nothing simple at all, really.

Eh, I guess it all depends on how you look at it.

[chulooz]

There is nothing simple about this car. Lots of custom fabbing, it has a custom indy V8, cr racing 4spd, and a crazy built suspension setup. This is by all means a track car that can be driven on the street. I NEED it.

[Wes B.]

Originally Posted by chulooz

There is nothing simple about this car. Lots of custom fabbing, it has a custom indy V8, cr racing 4spd, and a crazy built suspension setup. This is by all means a track car that can be driven on the street. I NEED it.

Again, it's all about how you look at it. Sure, a lot of fabrication has gone into it, and a lot of the parts are expensive, but it has a very natural feel. By that I mean that it doesn't rely on luxuries like Sat Nav, heated/air conditioned seats, or DCT transmission to make it a marketable automobile. Also, the engine has far less computer restrictions than most, if not all, of the engines sold in automobiles today.

[chulooz]

Its a track car, of course its more spartan than consumer products at the dealership.

[Wes B.]

Originally Posted by chulooz

Its a track car, of course its more spartan than consumer products at the dealership.

Like I said, simple. Not much is there to get in the way of the driving experience.