Innovate Motorsports Twin Screw Supercharger Kit for FR-S/BRZ

[jadewbj]

Originally Posted by Carwhisperer

Theres still no dyno forreal? TRD just released theirs.. and its not even available to the public in the spring.

[JoeBoxer]

Originally Posted by gmookher

you need an actual test car, with this running, to get a dyno chart

is there such a thing?

Originally Posted by mines13

Well flatline, I will leak this much... Our current version, compared to a certain kit's posted graph, at an equivalent peak boost pressure, we are making in the neighborhood of 20lb/ft of torque more between 3000 RPM and 4500 RPM. Between 4500 RPM and 5700 RPM the spread grows to 38lb/ft. Peak torque starts to taper just after 5700 RPM in a linear and smooth fashion, the spread drops to 25lb/ft until about 6500 RPM then smoothly down to 14lb/ft to red line. Below 3000 RPM it only torque delivery only gets worse for the other system, as it builds boost with the slope of RPM. Basically, this translates to between 180lb/ft and 200lb/ft of torque between 3000 RPM and 7200 RPM at a similar boost level, to the wheels. Peak torque on the twin screw occurs at 5000 RPM vs 6500 RPM on the other kit. The twin screw also matches the peak torque value of the other kit 3500 RPM sooner...

I am rounding the numbers down as we use a different dyno with a higher parasitic loss, potentially different weather conditions, altitude, etc. But the trend would be the same, so the spread would likely be larger on the same day, same dyno.

Keep in mind, neither of these kits are 100% polished and ready, components, calibration, etc. can change before final release. As mentioned previously, they have not being tested identically. I do not think the other kit is inferior, it is just different and designed for a different type of customer. Simply weigh the cost and attributes of all the offerings and decide what is right for you. There really is no kit that will be all things to all people, just what you feel will work best for you.
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Looks like it, i sure hope they wouldn't make the numbers up.

[Cheddar]

^ all i see the tqr numbers.....no graph....and nothing about whp.

[JoeBoxer]

Originally Posted by Cheddar

^ all i see the tqr numbers.....no graph....and nothing about whp.

still means there is one running with this kit, that's all i was clarifying.

[Cheddar]

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

still means there is one running with this kit, that's all i was clarifying.

Im sure who ever is developing the system has it. But they wont release any info.

but seeing as TRD superchargers go. I dont expect TRD to break the 250 crank HP barrier.

They like to keep it simple for techs to install with as little as possible parts to change and as much money as possible from your pocket.

[swift996]

Sorry if I missed this, but is there a picture of the kit installed on a car?

[mines13]

Originally Posted by gmookher

you need an actual test car, with this running, to get a dyno chart

is there such a thing?

Yes GM, to clear up your confusion we have two dedicated company owned test cars, one domestically and the other over seas. These exclude the two employee owned vehicles which if the owners choose to take advantage, can run the the final version of either kit just prior to release.

[JoeBoxer]

Originally Posted by mines13

Yes GM, we have two dedicated company owned test cars, as well as another two employee owned vehicles.

So i guess a beta tester is out of the question...

[2forme]

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

So i guess a beta tester is out of the question...

Already asked... a month ago :-p

[Batman]

Originally Posted by Carwhisperer

Theres still no dyno forreal? TRD just released theirs.. and its not even available to the public in the spring.

Pics or it never happened!

[2forme]

Originally Posted by Batman

Pics or it never happened!

Oh snap, Batman has spoken. Better supply those dynos!

[Pete]

Originally Posted by 2forme

Mines, would you be opposed to me adding these referenced figures to my graph for those who are more visually inclined? I won't label you or the product, just to be used for estimated reference purposes

Here is a totally unrelated chart with some random numbers I made up from no input in particular.

[2forme]

Originally Posted by Pete

Here is a totally unrelated chart with some random numbers I made up from no input in particular.

You beat me to it LOL

[mines13]

Originally Posted by Pete

Here is a totally unrelated chart with some random numbers I made up from no input in particular.

I have to say, that is pretty impressive based on what I have sitting on my desk right now.