font pipe reviews?

[DSOmegaX]

Originally Posted by Got3n

I'm thinking I may have to get this Motiv front pipe lol. Do they have an overpipe to? I was thinking of the getting the Perrin front pipe since they had an overpipe as well.

Motiv has an overpipe as well

[Got3n]

Originally Posted by DSOmegaX

Motiv has an overpipe as well

could you give me a link perhaps? All i can find on their site is the front pipe http://www.motivconcepts.com/scion-frs/

[JoeBoxer]

Originally Posted by Got3n

could you give me a link perhaps? All i can find on their site is the front pipe http://www.motivconcepts.com/scion-frs/

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=16667&page=7

[DSOmegaX]

Yeah they don't list them yet because its recently released. Contact them through the forums regarding it. They respond quickly.

[clayrush]

Anybody have any dynos yet for the motive parts. I am looking to buy a front and over pipe as and xmas gift for my girls FRS. hopefully it's not too late

[MotivConcepts]

Originally Posted by Got3n

could you give me a link perhaps? All i can find on their site is the front pipe http://www.motivconcepts.com/scion-frs/

We haven't put the overpipe on the site yet because we can't even keep them in stock to ship to regular retail customers.

PM me if you want pricing info, we are wrapping up Group Buy #2 before the New Year.

And thank you everyone here for the support. It means a ton to us.

[TyperRspec789]

Originally Posted by MotivConcepts

And thank you everyone here for the support. It means a ton to us.

You don't need to thank us... The support was earned through your top quality products and customer service.

[Hawaiian]

Originally Posted by thebear21

any help would be awesome... just looking at front pipes... all of them. catered vs non cat vs resonates... who's got what and how did you like/ dislike them?
thanks!

I have a full P&L setup (header back with high flow catted midpipe), I added it on piece by piece so I had the opportunity to hear, and feel the vehicle as it broke in, and with each part upgraded. With it all in place, the sound is richer and deeper than stock. Well worth every penny spent. On friday I put the final part on, and have driven a few hundred miles since.

The thing I noticed right away was that I was speeding. When I drive my highway commute I keep the throttle open at the same position when I drive out of muscle memory. On monday I looked at my speedometer and realized I was doing almost 90 instead of my usual 82.

My car pulls better, has quicker response, a smaller torque dip, and sounds fantastic.

Originally Posted by gmookher

overpipe+frontpipe, dont cares whose you buy, just get them both
if you plan on headers go catted front pipe

^this. I never thought I would see the day I would agree with gm, but hey.. It happens. The reason for getting the high flow cat was to pass emissions when I swap out my header down the road.

[Estey]

is there a performance difference between the nameless downpipe and the motiv? I cant decide which one to go with.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by Estey

is there a performance difference between the nameless downpipe and the motiv? I cant decide which one to go with.

Not likely anything measurable outside of variance (if they are the same ID). Nameless has options as well: their piece that replaces the overpipe and frontpipe into ONE piece (thus removing a flange) is $499 for HFC, with a $65 option for the Helmholtz resonator; their factory fit front pipe with HFC is $399. It does not appear that Nameless offers a separate replacement overpipe at this time.

The Motiv frontpipe with HFC and overpipe will cost you $669.98 retail (359.99+309.99). Nameless one piece over/frontpipe with HFC will cost you $564 with the Helmholtz, $499 without. So to replace the same lengths of pipe with equivalent products it's cheaper to go with Nameless, when you want a HFC. For now you can't build a factory fit frontpipe WITHOUT HFC on their website; I'm sure if you call them they'll see what they can do for you. If you want a test pipe though, they'll sell you the one piece over/frontpipe for $399 without HFC. If you went with Motiv you'd pay $249.99 for the test pipe and 309.99 for the over-pipe, for a grand total of $559.98.

I'm not saying which is better because I don't know and both companies use high quality cats; just providing some cost analysis and informing people of their options. Construction from both companies will be top-notch; the Motiv piece is undeniably pretty, but with it being under the car that aspect doesn't matter much to me and it does appear to factor into the price.

[MotivConcepts]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Not likely anything measurable outside of variance (if they are the same ID). Nameless has options as well: their piece that replaces the overpipe and frontpipe into ONE piece (thus removing a flange) is $499 for HFC, with a $65 option for the Helmholtz resonator; their factory fit front pipe with HFC is $399. It does not appear that Nameless offers a separate replacement overpipe at this time.

The Motiv frontpipe with HFC and overpipe will cost you $669.98 retail (359.99+309.99). Nameless one piece over/frontpipe with HFC will cost you $564 with the Helmholtz, $499 without. So to replace the same lengths of pipe with equivalent products it's cheaper to go with Nameless, when you want a HFC. For now you can't build a factory fit frontpipe WITHOUT HFC on their website; I'm sure if you call them they'll see what they can do for you. If you want a test pipe though, they'll sell you the one piece over/frontpipe for $399 without HFC. If you went with Motiv you'd pay $249.99 for the test pipe and 309.99 for the over-pipe, for a grand total of $559.98.

I'm not saying which is better because I don't know and both companies use high quality cats; just providing some cost analysis and informing people of their options. Construction from both companies will be top-notch; the Motiv piece is undeniably pretty, but with it being under the car that aspect doesn't matter much to me and it does appear to factor into the price.

Just to chime in:

We do use RathGibson metal - that's the biggest factor that is into the price compared to our competitors. You can do a quick search on Google to see why RathGibson is superior and why not all 304 stainless is created equally.

[Scooby South]

Another vote for Motiv... Awesome Quality backed by Lifetime Warranty...

Bill

[thebear21]

any thoughts on the invidia pipes? I do love the motiv. but I sure do hate paying for shipping to Hawaii.....

[ngabdala]

My Motiv HFC came in today. Welds look wonderful. I'm sleeping with it in my bed tonight.