My AP Exhaust Problems!

[track_warrior]

Originally Posted by ChaChas345

Theres a reason why they are banned from every major Subaru forum. Sorry for your bad experience with them. Hope people on these forums now see why they are such a bad company and quit bashing people who say negative things about them that are all true

I always heard the subaru stories and being a long time customer of them i foolishly ignored them. I hope people learn from others mistakes....... Now lets wait for vivid & ap to blame me on hitting something, or bad install, or that it got caught with something.

Other vendors have a great example here of how not to treat your loyal customers, let this be a lesson to us all.

[epson1]

You sound like a big whiny baby. Buy a new muffer clamp to replace the leaker. And replace your canister flange with another clamp. Cost maybe 30$

[track_warrior]

Originally Posted by epson1

You sound like a big whiny baby. Buy a new muffer clamp to replace the leaker. And replace your canister flange with another clamp. Cost maybe 30$

You are either a complete idiot or a conformist if you think you should pay a good amount of money for an exhaust and have to be dealing with these types of problems and then also have their customer service suck and not willing to replace the exhaust. The exhaust ruined my diffuser, set me back every single time at the track, leaks in every single connection, its banged up and bent because it hit the floor so many times, and the welds are torn as well. Why should i have to pay 200 bucks at a good muffler shop to fix it, when it should have never been broken in the first place. Like i said money is not the object here i just purchased a new exhaust instead of sending this thing in, i even got a brand new AP catback offered by xtr performance at cost since Chris was compassionate about my misfortune with this exhaust, i declined the offer since i dont want to keep having these problems.

If you like to look the other way at the problem go ahead but im sure a lot of people would be pretty pissed if their exhaust system started falling apart after just 1500k miles. Like i said this stuff is just not supposed to happen.

[epson1]

Welds??? fix them with a clamp. Your shitty exhaust, came apart because it has shitty Chinese clamps that are already a shitty design. You Were 100% aware of this clamp design when you purchased the exhaust.

But what ever. Go do what you do.

[JoeBoxer]

I still can't believe that other guy bought this one instead of something else with this thread going on. Not sure why Epson is so hostile either?

[track_warrior]

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

I still can't believe that other guy bought this one instead of something else with this thread going on. Not sure why Epson is so hostile either?

Some people man, you would think they would be grateful for the advice and instead he calls me a whining baby. I didnt call him an idiot i said he could either be an idiot or conformist he chose the former when he said i called him an idiot. Nothing wrong with being a conformist, but those people should just keep their opinions to their selves.

[gmookher]

we get the full darwinistic span here...

[Foobar]

I guess they weren't kidding with the claim "Agency Power offers a LIFETIME Limited Warranty against defects or failures"

The emphasis was just on the wrong word, should've been on LIMITED

Limited as in "if your exhaust falls off due to our defective workmanship and it happens to hit the ground while moving, then all bets are off!"

[clayrush]

Either way if it was a defective product or a bad install. If I were vivid/AP, and knowing the perception that people have of them on this forum. I would have just cross shipped a new one. The loss of potential customers way outweighs the cost of a new muffler. If the muffler is built in house the loss should just be the cost of the metal and a little time.

[Hanakuso]

Just looking at the warranty description baffles me on there website,

All Agency Power products come with a LIFETIME warranty to the original purchaser. To receive the Agency Power product warranty, you must have an original copy of your invoice or receipt, fill out our warranty form located HERE, and follow our instructions for replacement or repair. Warranty claims will not be fulfilled for incorrect installation, abuse, or wearable items. We can refuse the right to honor our warranty based on these conditions. The warranty is 100% at our discretion. All products are intended for race use only as suggested by the manufacturer and should be installed and set up by professional service centers ONLY. As stated above we are not responsible for shipping cost other then by our own mistake of incorrect shipping.

I hope they can come in here and fill us in but this is what i'm getting. All AP products are intended for race use only but won't cover on track use?

[Foobar]

Originally Posted by Hanakuso

Just looking at the warranty description baffles me on there website,



I hope they can come in here and fill us in but this is what i'm getting. All AP products are intended for race use only but won't cover on track use?

Maybe they only cover street racing. Track racing is a no-no?

[Sccabrz192]

Originally Posted by clayrush

Either way if it was a defective product or a bad install. If I were vivid/AP, and knowing the perception that people have of them on this forum. I would have just cross shipped a new one. The loss of potential customers way outweighs the cost of a new muffler. If the muffler is built in house the loss should just be the cost of the metal and a little time.

I would typically agree, but apparently they will still be able to sell their product as long as there are those willing to blindly buy.

#SeeThreadStarted2HoursLater

[Zadkiel]

Originally Posted by pcasso87

I always heard the subaru stories and being a long time customer of them i foolishly ignored them. I hope people learn from others mistakes....... Now lets wait for vivid & ap to blame me on hitting something, or bad install, or that it got caught with something.

Other vendors have a great example here of how not to treat your loyal customers, let this be a lesson to us all.

I have had a complete 180 experience with FT86Speedfactory myself as far as vendors go. They respond to every question I've ever had and never had a bad experience.

[Supermassive]

I have stood behind Vivid in the past and will continue to do so since they hook me up with just about anything I want with a discount attached, but as fas as AP parts are concerned I am a bit more skeptical now than I was before. I personally deal with Sean at VR for ordering pretty much anything under the sun, even if they don't list it on their site they can get pretty much anything. I feel for Pcasso and his problems because having to deal with a company you cant just drive to is a pain in the ass and for the most part ends the same way with most businesses. I'm currently going out of my mind with P&L Motorsports concerning my turbo kit...bought it at the beginning of October and still waiting, sucks when you are talking about something that costs $7000+ and all I can do is pester them over the phone instead of being able to go to the shop. I'm patient but I was really hoping to have this part installed before 2013...

I have a couple AP parts that I really, really like, my rear LCA's and Pulley are all I have and both are extremely well made, just sucks that their exhaust is causing problems for their brand because they do have a bunch of other parts that are actually well made.