Forced Induction Choices

[Tansey86]

Hey guys, I am interested to see what everyone's choice of forced induction is for this car. I'd like to see what people thought was good/bad about the kits out there and what really made you lean towards one kit over another.

I think this will be beneficial for people as reference to help them see what kits are doing right and help them with their purchases.

So I guess something like this:

Kit Choice:
Reason Why:
Use of Car:
Ultimate Goals for Car:

[FreshFRS]

well from the other threads you probably have seen what i'm planning.

Kit: Custom Rotrex or TVS Supercharger system.

Reasons: Throttle response FTW, Midrange power (TVS)

Use: Canyon carving, Auto-X, Road racing

Goals: 300-350whp on pump gas. 250+ tq (High performance daily driver.)

[JoeBoxer]

I'm still undecided, JDL turbo and Litchfield supercharger are the newest that have my attention. Innovate is still an option just waiting on numbers.

Hoping for 275 whp, car is my daily but hopefully will see some track use next year.

[Brody602]

Originally Posted by Tansey86

Hey guys, I am interested to see what everyone's choice of forced induction is for this car. I'd like to see what people thought was good/bad about the kits out there and what really made you lean towards one kit over another.

I think this will be beneficial for people as reference to help them see what kits are doing right and help them with their purchases.

So I guess something like this:

Kit Choice:
Reason Why:
Use of Car:
Ultimate Goals for Car:

IMO it's a little early for something like this considering 95% of the kits are still in R&D/Testing. Hard to define reasoning for "choosing" a certain kit when none are actually available to use at the moment. To my knowledge AVO is the closest one, their stage one kit is finalized and willl be shipping out in January.

But to answer your request,

Kit Choice: AVO TurboWorld, likely Stage 2

Reason Why: Good quality build, tons of R&D, RELIABILITY, meets the hp gains i want.. Aprox +80-100whp compared to stock

Use of Car: Daily Driver

Ultimate Goals for Car: Have a little fun Drifting here and there, in a safe manner, i.e official events, private property ect.

[gmookher]

Kit Choice: Vortech SC
Reason Why: USA made/support, upgrade path to bigger pulley or bigger blower is very easy, they are known for safety testing up the wazoo like Perrin before product release. I do not like the methods other vendors use which lack scripted test procedures.
Use of Car: Track 75-90%
Ultimate Goals for Car:at stage 2 I expect 330 to 350 HP trackable

[ngabdala]

After reading this thread I'm wondering whether I jumped the gun on the downpayment for the AVO Turbo. I've never turbo'd or supercharged a vehicle before.

I hear SC doesn't affect throttle responsiveness but I've heard the size turbo AVO uses shouldn't affect the throttle.

Can anyone chime in? @gmookher I trust your knowledge on this.

I know Paul at AVO will refund the deposit if I decided to switch to another kit.

[MSTiFK8R]

Originally Posted by ngabdala

After reading this thread I'm wondering whether I jumped the gun on the downpayment for the AVO Turbo. I've never turbo'd or supercharged a vehicle before.

I hear SC doesn't affect throttle responsiveness but I've heard the size turbo AVO uses shouldn't affect the throttle.

Can anyone chime in? @gmookher I trust your knowledge on this.

I know Paul at AVO will refund the deposit if I decided to switch to another kit.

Bro, keep calm and carry on )

We're in the same boat now )

AVO kit is the best option. Dunworry

[JoeBoxer]

Originally Posted by ngabdala

After reading this thread I'm wondering whether I jumped the gun on the downpayment for the AVO Turbo. I've never turbo'd or supercharged a vehicle before.

I hear SC doesn't affect throttle responsiveness but I've heard the size turbo AVO uses shouldn't affect the throttle.

Can anyone chime in? @gmookher I trust your knowledge on this.

I know Paul at AVO will refund the deposit if I decided to switch to another kit.

Can't go wrong with the AVO, you should be fine.

[Sportsguy83]

Kit Choice: AVO

Reason Why: Offers most if not all what I am looking for this car. Reliability, Thousands of miles through different peaks and valleys, AVO reputation for OEM+ kits doing 200K miles, UEL header, like the turbo location, love the scavenge pump design, love the OEM look, etc etc.

Use of Car: Was DD when I chose AVO but since, has become weekend car.


Ultimate Goals for Car: Making it as much fun as possible while keeping reliability, not interested in opening up the motor to do any internal upgrades, not looking for more than 300-320 HP on future fuel upgrades.


Edit: GREAT thread by the way, hope everyone can stay on topic and just answer your questions and in your format... (One can only dream!)

Edit2: Agree with @nix 100% You have to be prepared to face the consequences of your actions. Thus, I know I will void the warranty the day I boost it and will be on my own if the motor breaks. There is NOTHING 100% safe. Any kit can break any engine. It is just a matter of percentages. How much or how less likely is X or Y modification of breaking your engine?

[nix]

I have had a few different engine builders and mechanics express concern to me about the rods holding up over the long term even on low boost and e85.

I worry about people thinking ___'s kit is safe, then a year or 2 later they have broken warranty on a heavily financed car and can't afford a rebuild.

Bottom line - don't go FI unless you know you can afford the consequences!

<- An AVO Customer.

[nonicname]

AVO period. bye

[nonicname]

Originally Posted by gmookher

Kit Choice: Vortech SC
Reason Why: USA made/support, upgrade path to bigger pulley or bigger blower is very easy, they are known for safety testing up the wazoo like Perrin before product release. I do not like the methods other vendors use which lack scripted test procedures.
Use of Car: Track 75-90%
Ultimate Goals for Car:at stage 2 I expect 330 to 350 HP trackable

This SC kills torque to HP ratio. Torque is all I care about and this already SUCKS at it!

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by nonicname

This SC kills torque to HP ratio. Torque is all I care about and this already SUCKS at it!

We already have a million topics of back and forth bullcrap, lets keep this thread simple, on topic and respect other people's choices.

[cf6mech]

Accelerated Performance,.stays true to the theme of this car and is mounted low for low cg,...stays true to the mounting location of Subaru engines with the exception of intercooler location,... Turbo is located down and away and will not contribute as much to engine bay heat, case cooling scoop (which I plan on fabricating) easier to adapt from slip stream underneath car,..stage 1 comes with the piping of stage 2, no fuss to upgrade, bolt on the higher boost turbo tune and go.....downsides ...... because of its location needs a strong scavenge return oil pump,....not liking where the intake is,...may reroute for colder air or go with a vented/ram air type carbon hood.
Making a track monster car/weekend car/drive to work occasionally,...Going with forged internals Arias lower compression pistons and Pauter rods, race bearings for crank.