FR-S not the FT-86?

[82mm 4g63]

Why would they call it a Celica? I don't see how Toyota could call the concepts 86's, compare it almost exclusively to the 86, and then release it as a totally different name's successor? That makes no sense at all. It would be like GM pushing a new Firebird concept for years, hyping up the Trans Am heritage, then finally get to production and release it as a Sunfire.

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by TomGT

hm... I don´t know, but the press here is calling it the next "celica", too.

Which is especially interesting because it isn't a successor to the Celica anymore than it is a Supra successor.

This doesn't reflect positively on your "press" .

[ToyotaObsession]

Originally Posted by Type[R]+

First of all, how would you know what happens in Australia?

Second of all, you do know your USA cars are called different things in the world market?

Third of all, Mr Buttner has said the name Celica hasn't been ruled out, at the FT86II launch. He is Toyota Australia’s senior executive director sale and marketing to you...

What makes you say that? There has been plenty of reference to both Supra and Celica, as well as the 2000GT.

3/4 of the Australian media is calling it the Celica. People know what a Celica is. Like: http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor...518-1esvn.html

The select few are using the '86' trademark to suggest it's just going to be called '86'. Like: http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...2578BC001FB9B0

Just because you haven't heard shit about Australia, doesn't mean it won't happen. As I said before, Mr Buttner talked about it at the FT86II Australian launch.

I do agree with you, but the general public don't have a clue what an AE86 is.

At the end of the day, the USA car is going to be called something different to the rest of the world.

I pay attention.

So.....? You're point is? You call your breakfast Sausage Bangers too. I guess that means Jimmie Dean is going to name his sausage something else just for you?

As a marketing Director he's got a job to do, and that's stirring up interest. He can say any name's on the table. That's so noncommittal it's not even funny. It gets people talking which is his job. Get someone who matters over at Toyota Japan and I'll be interested.

References by who? Also does that mean it's going to be named 2000GT?

Again, the Media doesn't name Cars. Toyota does. So the Media can call it the snakebitten rolling turd. It doesn't mean a thing. People know what Corolla is too. Your point?

Honestly you don't know what I have and have not heard. But I do know that Australia is a such a small market, there's no way Toyota is going to name it Celica there, and no where else.

Duh, FR-S. Again, so what? What does that have to do with it being named Celica everywhere else?

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

Which is especially interesting because it isn't a successor to the Celica anymore than it is a Supra successor.

This doesn't reflect positively on your "press" .

[Type[R]+]

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

I pay attention.

Not enough!

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

So.....? You're point is? You call your breakfast Sausage Bangers too. I guess that means Jimmie Dean is going to name his sausage something else just for you?

Um no. That would be the British. Try again.

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

As a marketing Director he's got a job to do, and that's stirring up interest. He can say any name's on the table. That's so noncommittal it's not even funny. It gets people talking which is his job. Get someone who matters over at Toyota Japan and I'll be interested.

Toyota > you

Toyota Japan does not name our cars.

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

References by who?

Toyota

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

Also does that mean it's going to be named 2000GT?

It's possible.

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

Again, the Media doesn't name Cars. Toyota does. So the Media can call it the snakebitten rolling turd. It doesn't mean a thing.

Media > you

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

People know what Corolla is too. Your point?

What, a Matrix? WTF?!?!?!

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

Honestly you don't know what I have and have not heard. But I do know that Australia is a such a small market, there's no way Toyota is going to name it Celica there, and no where else.

Duh, FR-S. Again, so what? What does that have to do with it being named Celica everywhere else?

Again, how the fk would you know?

[Andy]

Hey I like the 2000GT name! They wont call it a Corolla coupe as its not the image they're going for, but 2000GT would work!

[ToyotaObsession]

Originally Posted by Type[R]+

Not enough!

Um no. That would be the British. Try again.

Toyota > you

Toyota Japan does not name our cars.
Toyota

It's possible.

Media > you

What, a Matrix? WTF?!?!?!

Again, how the fk would you know?

I realize you're a Troll. But I'll bite.

Aside from 5 of my Friends that are born and raised in Australia (and still live there) this site http://www.australiatravelsearch.com.au/trc/slang.html says it's Australian. Perhaps the British do too, but either way it's a moot point.

That's the best you can do? Greater than references? You realize this makes you look like a 2 year old.

LOL really? What Toyota Vehicles do you have in Australia that are that name for only that Market and were driven by Toyota Australia and not Japan?

You get your news from the National Enquirer don't you?

A Matrix? What? That has literally nothing to do with the conversation. Perhaps on second thought you don't understand the question. My point is just because people know a name does not mean it will get chosen. People know the Corolla, one of the Corolla models was the AE86. You know that car that they have been jumping up and down pointing at saying this is what they want you to think of. The Corolla shares more in common with the FT-86, and is a Car people know. Therefore by your logic that should be it's name.

How would I know? Pretty easy. Pay the slightest bit of attention. Just because you live in a different country doesn't mean it's not incredibly simple for me to find out what's going on over there. The Cold War is over remember.

So, now how about producing these references that Toyota Reps have made to the Celica. I'm interested in reading them. Since you say they exist, they must right?

[Type[R]+]

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

I realize you're a Troll. But I'll bite.

Aside from 5 of my Friends that are born and raised in Australia (and still live there) this site http://www.australiatravelsearch.com.au/trc/slang.html says it's Australian. Perhaps the British do too, but either way it's a moot point.

we call them snags.

You've only got 5 friends! Says it all really!

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

LOL really? What Toyota Vehicles do you have in Australia that are that name for only that Market and were driven by Toyota Australia and not Japan?

You get your news from the National Enquirer don't you?

toyota echo for starters....

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

A Matrix? What? That has literally nothing to do with the conversation. Perhaps on second thought you don't understand the question. My point is just because people know a name does not mean it will get chosen. People know the Corolla, one of the Corolla models was the AE86. You know that car that they have been jumping up and down pointing at saying this is what they want you to think of. The Corolla shares more in common with the FT-86, and is a Car people know. Therefore by your logic that should be it's name.

matrix = corolla.

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

How would I know? Pretty easy. Pay the slightest bit of attention. Just because you live in a different country doesn't mean it's not incredibly simple for me to find out what's going on over there. The Cold War is over remember.
So, now how about producing these references that Toyota Reps have made to the Celica. I'm interested in reading them. Since you say they exist, they must right?

Pretty easy huh... then

[ToyotaObsession]

Originally Posted by Type[R]+

we call them snags.

You've only got 5 friends! Says it all really!

toyota echo for starters....

matrix = corolla.

Pretty easy huh... then

LOL @ we. Bye we do you mean all the voices in your head? Anyways moot point.


Oh the Toyota Echo? You mean this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Yaris ?

And this http://seattle.craigslist.org/search...inAsk=&maxAsk=

And this http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&so...&q=toyota+echo

You know the Toyota Echo that we got in the states. For starters you're off to a horrible start. So please continue.

The Matrix is a model of the Corolla, just like the AE86. Yes ok. So where were you trying to go with that? Did you just want to spout off random models? Are you going to go Hatchback, Coupe, Sedan next?

Why in the world would I waste my time searching for something I could care less about? The problem is you are the one that's convinced they are going to name it Celica, and keep making statements to the effect. So since you're the one making the statements if you want me to read them, you'll have to search for them and show them to me. As far as I'm concerned they don't exist.

I know they won't name it Celica in Australia or anywhere else. So far you have exactly zero people that agree with you. So, if there's so much proof to back up what you say, show me. unless you can't in which case it means you're full of shit.

[Type[R]+]

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

I know they won't name it Celica in Australia or anywhere else. So far you have exactly zero people that agree with you. So, if there's so much proof to back up what you say, show me. unless you can't in which case it means you're full of shit.

I said it is still on the table.

http://news.drive.com.au/drive/melbo...627-1gn0s.html

What's so hard to believe?

[Type[R]+]

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

Oh the Toyota Echo? You mean this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Yaris ?

And this http://seattle.craigslist.org/search...inAsk=&maxAsk=

And this http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&so...&q=toyota+echo

You know the Toyota Echo that we got in the states. For starters you're off to a horrible start. So please continue.

Yep, that's the one. They could have called it yaris or vitz too.

How about Aurion? Got that one? We had the Avalon, but we dropped that name because it sucked.

How about Hilux? No? You guys call it the Pickup? Did Toyota Japan decide to call it Pickup for USA only? Really?

[blur]

We're the only ones with a Scion FR-S . . . SUCK IT

lol.

Funny argument.

[Type[R]+]

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

The Matrix is a model of the Corolla, just like the AE86. Yes ok. So where were you trying to go with that? Did you just want to spout off random models? Are you going to go Hatchback, Coupe, Sedan next?

Toyota USA called it that.

Want more proof we choose the names?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Auris
"The Auris succeeds the Corolla RunX in Japan and the Toyota RunX (no Corolla badging) in South Africa. Toyota Australia and Toyota New Zealand resisted suggestions from Toyota Japan to adopt the new European Auris name for the Corolla."

[Calais]

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

LOL @ we. Bye we do you mean all the voices in your head? Anyways moot point.


Oh the Toyota Echo? You mean this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Yaris ?

And this http://seattle.craigslist.org/search...inAsk=&maxAsk=

And this http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&so...&q=toyota+echo

You know the Toyota Echo that we got in the states. For starters you're off to a horrible start. So please continue.

The Matrix is a model of the Corolla, just like the AE86. Yes ok. So where were you trying to go with that? Did you just want to spout off random models? Are you going to go Hatchback, Coupe, Sedan next?

Why in the world would I waste my time searching for something I could care less about? The problem is you are the one that's convinced they are going to name it Celica, and keep making statements to the effect. So since you're the one making the statements if you want me to read them, you'll have to search for them and show them to me. As far as I'm concerned they don't exist.

I know they won't name it Celica in Australia or anywhere else. So far you have exactly zero people that agree with you. So, if there's so much proof to back up what you say, show me. unless you can't in which case it means you're full of shit.

you got that wrong i agree with him. i LIVE here and no one calls breakfast sausages, bangers unless they come from the UK.

havnt read the full extent of the other part of the argument but wouldn't us calling the xb the rukus be a good example of names that only austalia has?

[Nerfie]

Just to cut in, we don't call breakfast sausages bangers in the UK. Banger is a class of sausage btw, not a slang name for a sausage.

Well, no one I know from the UK, which is quite a few people as you can imagine, calls them bangers. So stop being racist and propagating Stereotypes you damn aussie criminal and fat yank!